On Sat, 19 Sep 2009 15:28:32 -0700 (PDT), BradGuth <bradguth@gmail.com> wrote:

Farther: Assuming that you could build it, what would you do with it?

Unlike yourself, I'd use logic along with my imagination, and
otherwise stick within the laws of physics.

So you don't actually know; Okay.

No disagreement?

You seem clearly unaware
of the payload hauling capacity of such a rigid airship.

I am very well aware of the capabilities of dirigibles.

I am also very well aware of the limitations, and one of the limitations is that they are
notoriously slow and unwieldy, even in the best of conditions.

Remote control, does nothing to help that lack of maneuverability .

Another is that no airship, will ever make orbit which still leaves you with the problem
of getting your treasures, back home.

Your personal rage and perpetual negativity are noted. 

So now, pointing out your ignorance, and lack of thought is accounted "personal rage and
perpetual negativity"; You sound like a typical fanatic, no evidence, but you want it to
be so, therefore it must be so.

Good thing you
weren't Einstein, or any other great thinker, because we'd still be
living in caves and preying to various Gods that suit the Puck
Greenman mindset.

As to personal rage, just ask your self; Who is it that is hurling the insults and ad
homonym attacks about?

But never mind that.

I take it from this latest little insult attack, that you haven't actually given any
thought to  getting your "treasures", into orbit

Prove me wrong, by giving us an example of something/anything that
you've accomplished that others said couldn't be done.

Evasion.

Prove your self right, give us measurements and calculations, name the materials that you
would use, to solve each problem, and explain how you would use them.

Quit with the arm waving, the insults, and the vaguese, and give us details.

Explain how a dirigible is going to help you lift those ores, into orbit.
Are you planning on making it so big that you can land your transports, on it?

Are any labs working on this, are any accredited scientists researching it?

Has anyone that we can reference, done any serious research into the
possibility/viability.

Ask NASA, or JPL, or someone who is liable to have some clue, what it would cost to lift a
thousand tonne payload, into orbit, and bring it back down again at a selected site.

You are going to have to be doing ten or a hundred times this, on a daily basis. 


Another point that you seem to have missed, is the return on investment, angle.

People who invest their money, do not expect to wait centuries, to see a return on their
investment, and that applies to the big corporations as well.

Do a little research of your own, find out how much of each raw material, Earth's industry
consumes every day, and what it costs.

In order to make your project pay, you must be able to match that quantity, and do it at a
serious saving to industry.

To fund such a project, would probably take Earth's GDI, for the next century, or more.

Telling us what a thing is worth, without telling us what it will cost to get it, is
pointless.

Consider a thousand tonnes of unrefined gold bearing rock, assaying at... what... 1%; yes?

That is ten tonnes of gold.

Will the refined metal be valuable enough to absorb the costs of mining, transporting and
refining, and still show you a profit?

...Always assuming that they would allow you to import that much gold on a regular basis?

Now you might call all this, "negativity", but, as I said, I am an engineer, and I know
from experience, my own and others, that without that "negativity", no safe structure
would or could be built, be it a mud hut by the river, or a mining complex on Venus.