Subject: Re: SETI and The Fermi Paradox
From: Puck Greenman
Date: 20/09/2009, 19:56
Newsgroups: alt.atheism,sci.astro.amateur,alt.sci.seti,alt.astronomy

On Sun, 20 Sep 2009 09:19:58 -0700 (PDT), BradGuth <bradguth@gmail.com> wrote:

Quit with the arm waving, the insults, and the vaguese, and give us details.

Details:
1)  Unlike yourself (mainstream arms flying every which way), I don't
happen to know everything there is to know.


That is *very* clear.


2)  All the energy and raw elements necessary for technology and
humans surviving on Venus, form the most part already exist on Venus.


And you know this.... How?

3)  We have sufficient technology as is to accommodate our scientific
gathering and surface exploring via robotics.

4)  The composite rigid airship notion is also a technology that's
within existing spec of what we can accomplish.


There really is no point in continuing this.  You are obviously incapable of holding a
reasoned debate.  Neither do you have any idea as to what can and cannot be done with
existing science.

Did the technology exist to work on the surface of Venus,in the manner which you describe,
it would already be employed to mine the ocean bed, on our own world. 

Four fifths of our world is under water, which means that four fifths of our mineral
resources are under water.


The longest that anything has survived on the surface of Venus, is two hours, seven
minutes.  In that time, it managed to take and transmit, fourteen pictures.

We have had machines on the sea bed for much longer, gained much more information, and
retrieved them, still functional.

By the by, conspiracy theories do nothing for your credibility.