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From: Ken MacGrayDate: Fri, 16 May 1997 07:59:05 -0800 Subject: Mahood's Final Report on Lazar (1/2) The following is reprinted from www.serve.com/mahood/finis.htm Ken ================= Some Final Thoughts, Musings and Ruminations Wherein our hero slinks off into the Nevada sunset, curiosity satiated but longing for dragons... Some of you have noticed that this site hasn't had much in the way of updates recently, nor will you see any in the foreseeable future. There are two reasons for this. The main reason is I no longer have much time to deal much with adding to the site. Recently, I returned to school, working towards a Masters degree in Physics (and yes, there are records!) This has proven to be about the hardest thing (and maybe dumbest!) I've ever done, sucking up vast amounts of my formerly copious spare time (Oh yeah, it's kinda fun, too, but in a sick way). I've always had a strong interest in science, originally majoring in physics before switching to engineering. I think the final push to go back to school came from listening to all the pseudo-scientific crap floating around Area 51 (more on that later) and UFOs in general. While I was pretty sure most of all this great sounding stuff was bogus, I didn't know for sure why. I do now. However the other, and perhaps more important reason, I'm putting this site on autopilot, is I'm pretty much finished with Area 51. I realized I had most of my questions answered, and much of the mystery was gone. Sigh. My first trip out to the area was Thanksgiving, 1993. Since then, I've probably been out there perhaps 40-50 times, at best evidence of too much free time, and at worse, evidence of a very sick puppy. In those early days, so much of the Nellis Range was a mystery. There aren't exactly guidebooks explaining just what all these interesting facilities do out there, facilities the government would just as soon you not know about. In these regions there be dragons... But over time, with a lot of research and connecting with various people, these areas of mystery got smaller and smaller. Then one day I finally realized that the mysterious areas (at least for me) were gone, and so, sadly, was the possibility of dragons. (Well, almost) I had made this site operational somewhat as a public service for those interested in Area 51 and similar topics. It really came out of my investigations into Lazar's background. I kept getting requests for copies of this or that, so in an effort to save my lazy ass some work, I just put it all on the web as a serve-your-self. Later, I added some of the more solid things I was finding on the Nellis Range. I tried not to duplicate what Glenn Campbell already had on his site, but that wasn't much of a problem as our approaches and intents were different. My intent in this weird business has been very specific. It was, to find out for myself, if we are really operating alien based craft out of the Groom area, or anywhere else in that neighborhood. I was never interested in "blowing the lid off of Groom" (if there's a lid on anything to begin with), or exposing anything. I wanted to know...for me (The rest of you are on your own!). I presume the government has plenty of secret things out there, and as far as I'm concerned, they are entitled to them. Stealth helicopters, black Mantas, UAVs, Aurora...who cares?? But if we're talkin' aliens, then I want to know. Going about things with that goal dictated what I did, and who/what I got involved with. It also determined just what kind of info I would publicly let loose. I had two concerns in this regard. First, I was legitimately concerned that some of the info I might come across could be "sensitive" (I have no idea if that's the case). I always erred on the conservative side and never publicly put out anything that to me suggested sensitivity. I tended to avoid the media (with a few exceptions) as to my mind it really didn't serve any useful purpose and move me toward where I wanted to go. I did hear from some pretty bizarre folks after my few TV appearances, however. There are some weird people out there... Secondly, over time, I had some real interesting people provide me with some rather valuable pieces of the puzzle. Maybe because I didn't seem like a nut (Hah, fooled them!), or just kept my mouth shut. I held this stuff close to my vest, as these sources could perhaps get into various flavors of trouble if it got out they were telling me things, and also publicly repeating some of these items would simply make my sources go away. As a result, what you've seen on my web site has only been the mainstream items, based upon public records, documents and statements. The juicy stuff I kept to myself, and it most definitely affected my conclusions. What I'd like now to do is something a little different for me. This is kind of a conclusion, one that I never thought I'd reach. I'm going to summarize what I think is going on (and not going on) in the Nellis Range, based upon almost 4 years of looking at it for many different angles. I'm going to tell you what I think and why. I'm not trying to convince you that I'm right, (but I'm satisfied I am), I just want explain why I think what I do, in as much detail as confidences allow. I still entertain the possibility I could be wrong. As this is a summary, it certainly won't be comprehensive. Also, I will be using the term "source" quite a bit. These are people who I've known and have found to be reasonably reliable. I shall remain somewhat vague about precisely what they've said, as it might compromise who they are. As I'm not trying to convince you of anything or win any arguments, I don't see it as a problem. I will be interested to see what (if anything) the wackos have to say about this, but I suspect they'll somehow find more nasty things to say about me. But I have no obligations other than to myself. So, I might suggest in a very rare departure from civility, they simply go fuck themselves... ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Area 51 and the Nellis Range So what's going on out there??? I am satisfied that people are (or were) seeing something out there (although no one's been seeing much in recent times). But what exactly was that something? Yeah, yeah, I know, there are a lot of odd aircraft zipping around out there. But I'm after those things that stairstep and make "instant" right angle turns. In my mind, the best fit answer as to what's been spotted is indeed some sort of disc shaped craft. While some may find this a farfetched conclusion, to avoid it means dismissing some pretty high quality observations by reliable observers. Does this imply there is some secret base out there where a squadron of these things are kept? Not at all. The most simple, conservative explanation is simply we somehow acquired or built one of these things, and kept it in a nondescript hangar at the south end of the base. Then, when most of the normal personnel went home for the day, it was brought out for tests. Is it still there? I have no idea, but if you were running the program would you want to regularly display it for black mailbox tourists? Could it have been something else that was mistaken for a disc? Most certainly, although it's hard to say just what it might be. I was told a rather interesting story by someone who said there were no exotic craft at Groom. What there was/is, is a particle beam device, and that its operation was mistaken for disc shaped craft. This source said the device was in a long, covered trench-like affair, who's cover slid away for testing. Further, this source said he had seen the device, and that nothing could be in the air for miles around when it operated. While that was an interesting story, I could never figure out how a particle beam could produce spherical balls of light, flitting across the sky. Only recently was the technical mechanism explained to me as to how this would occur. And it does check out, so I view this as a very viable alternative explanation. Wouldn't it be ironic if all this mythology of saucers at Groom and the influx of alien seeking tourists compromising base operations, was simply the result of particle beam experiments? That would be neat to find out some day. What about these stories of underground transport systems, some that are said to stretch as far as Edwards AFB to the west and the sinister Dulce to the northeast? This was one of those urban legends...I mean rural legends that I think I had some success tracking down. I am convinced these stories arose from the substantial tunnel complexes used for underground testing on the NTS. All the elements are there: Blacked out busses taking workers to a train station are actually the KT Lines busses with dark desert tint windows shuttling workers from Mercury to the portals in Area 12. The train stations are indeed that, with workers passing through turnstiles to board their open man trains. The man trains in the tunnels become high speed maglev trains in the legend. There are internal crossover points that serve as underground stations. And the tunnels do go on for many miles, over a total 20 miles in one instance, but never leaving the Rainier Mesa area. I suppose there could be secret underground research complexes in Rainier Mesa, but it might have nothing at all to do with aliens. But considering how often the ground would be rattling, it would be a pretty lousy place to site anything sensitive. Not a place I'd want to work, anyway. What about other places out there? I don't think there's anything real sneaky going on at TTR, but they likely have some new versions of stealth aircraft (yawn..) hidden in those many hangars, waiting for nightfall to come out and play. I think their spooky neighbor to the east, Site-4, has the dubious distinction of lending its name to the Lazar story, although this Site-4 has nothing to do with ETs. That is unless the ETs might have radar or EM devices that could be used against US aircraft. If that's the case, you can bet our government will do whatever it takes to "acquire" that equipment, and bring it out to Site-4 for testing against our aircraft, next to the Soviet, Chinese and Iraqi equipment. The story of how the Site-4 name made the cross country leap to Papoose Lake is interesting, and may be told some day. The Tolicha Peak facility has proven to be a rather boring electronic warfare training facility, mostly used during the various Nellis Flag exercises. Other that these facilities, there seems to be nothing else out there north of Groom and the NTS. The widespread dropping of bombs tends to put a damper on the concept of underground bases hiding under Gold Flat. I think almost all the stories swirling around the area stem from exaggerations of real events. I've always had a pretty high regard for the word of others (I guess a reflection of my own strong desire to relate stories accurately), and as a result I've been saddened at the amount of bullshit I've come across. I don't understand the psychological mechanism behind it, but some people just seem to delight in telling tall tales. Unfortunately they seem to find a receptive audience in some of the folks drawn to Area 51, and the stories take on a life of their own. You have no idea the crap I've heard! Damn near broke my bullshit filter. Papoose Lake I am satisfied that the only thing at Papoose Lake is a dry lake and some junk. Moreover, that's all there's ever been. I've studied several high resolution satellite photos of the area from the era that Lazar claims to have been there. None show so much of a hint of anything there, beyond normal range operations. Not the fenced area Lazar described at the entrance, nor the "good dirt road" used by the bus to get there. In science fiction stories, underground bases can be hidden without a trace. Not so in real life. There have to be entryways for vehicles and equipment, cooling, heating and ventilation ports, utility feeds, at least some of which will show up on a satellite photo. None do here. Then there's the question of why it would be an underground base to start with. The only underground facilities I know to exist are those specifically designed to survive a nuclear attack, and there are more than a few. To do so they must be far underground, such as Cheyenne Mountain or Mount Weather. The construction of such facilities is a tremendous engineering task requiring equally tremendous dollars. Lazar's S-4 obviously couldn't survive a nuclear attack as it was right beneath the surface. Also, underground facilities are not very amenable to expansion or modification like a surface facility. Then there's the problem of what to do with the material you excavate. You have to put it somewhere, and the bigger the underground base, the bigger the dirt pile. So maybe it was built underground to hide it. Hide it from who? Lazar has said the Soviets were in the program at one time, so it couldn't be from them. The American people? There are far less costly ways to hide things, usually in plain sight. The concept just doesn't make sense. [Continued]
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