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Campbell's General Response to Newsgroups [a.c.a51]

From: campbell@ufomind.com (Glenn Campbell, Las Vegas)
Date: Wed, 8 Oct 1997 11:14:37 -0800

[I know I promised to bring the Spader/Huff thread to a close,
but this response, just posted to a.c.a51, is pretty general. -- GC]

From: campbell@ufomind.com (Glenn Campbell, Las Vegas)
Subject: General Response from Glenn Campbell
Newsgroups: alt.conspiracy.area51
Date: 10/8/97

I understand my name has been bandied about a lot on this newsgroup
lately.  I do not monitor the newsgroups, so I haven't read all the
messages.  (The bandwidth here is stunning and there is no way I can
keep up.)  Previous flame wars have pretty much desensitized me to
anything anyone can say, and past experience has shown that it isn't
wise to jump into the fray, even to deny obvious falsehoods.  The
Glenn Campbell discussions can play out without me.

There are a few interesting responses on the Glenn Campbell criticism
page:  http://www.ufomind.com/ufo/people/c/campbell/criticism/#link8
Otherwise, the whole Campbell thread seems, well, a bit off-topic.

It isn't a good idea for me to respond to individual messages, because
that prompts even more debate and flames.  I can, however, make a
few comments _in general_ about any lurid charges made about anyone
on the newsgroups.

-- On the newsgroups, there is no moderator. Anyone can post anything
without any requirement that it be relevant.

-- Anyone can make up any story they want, without any requirement for
proof.

-- Anyone can claim to be anyone else simply by switching the email
address in their header.  Thus, one person can pretend to be a lot of
different people, all of whom support the first person's contentions.
(Hint: Look for similarities in style.)

-- By posting a lot of irrelevant messages, one person can completely
dominate a debate, distracting people from the original issue.

Regarding CHILD MOLESTATION claims, in general...

-- If someone is making such claims, they ought to offer some sort of
confirmable evidence.  (The best evidence would be a court record or
evidence of formal complaint.)  If they don't offer any substantial
evidence, it could be called slander.

-- If someone has current evidence of child molestation, it is their
responsibility to report this to the appropriate law enforcement
authority.  If they do not, this could be considered obstruction of
justice or something similar.  If someone claims to have such evidence
but isn't reporting it, we ought to wonder why.

-- In courts of law, unlike on the internet, a person is considered
innocent until proven guilty, and there are strict rules about the
admissability of evidence.  (A message posted anonymously on the
internet is certainly _not_ admissable.)  On the internet, once
charges start, you can never prove yourself innocent, because once you
respond to one charge, others emerge in its place -- anonymously
posted, of course.

For an alternative to the alt.conspiracy.area51 newsgroup, see the
Area 51 Mailing List at http://www.ufomind.com/area51/list/.  This
list covers about the same topics as the newsgroup, but it is
moderated. Irrelevant messages are kept to a minimum.  There are about
1100 email subscribers at present, and all messages are immediately
archived on the website.

Glenn Campbell

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