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LaViolette Claims Copyright Infringement in Previous Post

From: campbell@ufomind.com (Glenn Campbell, Las Vegas)
Date: Tue, 28 Oct 1997 11:08:00 -0800
In response to an earlier posting at:
   http://www.ufomind.com/area51/list/1997/oct/a10-002.shtml

...Paul LaViolette sent us the following request.  He says the
posting of his B-2 article is "illegal by international copyright
law."  He also phoned me.  (We had a few sharp words and I hung up
on him.)

LaViolette claims in his article that the B-2 bomber is an
antigravity craft.  My response follows his.

---------------------------------------------------------------

Date: Sun, 26 Oct 1997 10:36:48 -0500 (EST)
Subject: * Feedback COMPLAINT - /area51/list/1997/oct/a10-002.shtml
Commenting on: http://www.ufomind.com/area51/list/1997/oct/a10-002.shtml
From: Paul LaViolette <gravitics1@aol.com>
NEW URL: http://www.macconnect.com/~stargate/

I am the author of the B2 antigravity article.  I copyrighted this
article in 1993.  Posting of it is illegal by international copyright
law.  I have approved an excerpt of this article which people may post
with my permission if they agree to link to the Sphinx Stargate
website (http://www.macconnect.com/~stargate/) and provide information
for ordering the book "Electrogravitics Systems" in which this B2
paper appears.  I ask you that you remove this article immediately and
replace it with the approved posting which I can email to you.
Starlane Publications will soon add a page on the Sphinx Stargate
website advertising this book.

Perhaps you could provide some compensation for this posting error by
purchasing some of my books for your bookstore.  In particular Earth
Under Fire has been received with great interest by people interested
in UFO's and millenium issues.  Another book that would sell well is
"Subquantum Kinetics" which is physics and astronomy oriented and has
a chapter on Brown's work and electrogravitics.  Also you may wish to
contact Tom Valone to purchase copies of "Electrogravitics Systems"
the book that contains the B2 paper and other interesting material.

Please let me know where you obtained this article so I can inform
others to remove their postings of it.

Sincerely yours,
Paul LaViolette

 ----- Supplemental Information -----

USER GOT CC :
REPRINT     : Do Not Reprint
REPLY       : Please Reply

====================================================================

From Glenn:

On the feedback form, LaViolette flagged his message, "Do Not
Reprint," a request that I usually respect.  I choose to reprint the
message here anyway because (A) He is asserting copyright on a
document, and I think if you are going to do that you must do it
openly, and (B) He is requesting "compensation," which really rubs me
the wrong way.

For more on our email policies see http://www.ufomind.com/org/email.shtml

I generally _will_ remove documents from this server when an author
claims copyright infringement, but I am not going to compensate anyone
if the mistake was innocent.  In this case, there was no copyright
statement on the document, and it had already been distributed on
another mailing list. Only a portion of the original article was
included in our posting.

I am certainly not going to provide compensation by including any book
in my catalog.  The only criteria for including a book in the catalog
is that I personally think the book is worth more the the purchase
price and is genuinely useful.  Our motto: "We won't sell rubbish"
(which unfortunately eliminates 98% of all UFO and paranormal books).
This philosophy is different from that of rest of the website, where
rubbish is generally welcomed, if not cherished, so long as it is
linked to the appropriate index page.

As for the B-2 thesis, let's say I am unconvinced.  There could be
other reasons for electrically charging the leading edges of the B-2.
Perhaps in some way it helps reduce the radar profile of the plane --
which is the whole point of stealth.  Perhaps it helps reduce
turbulance or encourage laminar flow.  Maybe, just maybe, the B-2 does
indeed make use of antigravity technology, but to me books on the
subject and most other anti-gravity claims haven't yet crossed the
line into "worth the money."

LaViolette has sent me another message, an excerpt of the original
article, which he says I should use to replace the article posted to
the website.  I do not feel that I owe him this courtesy, however. I
am generally non-judgemental about these claims and would would not
object to this message if submitted through normal channels, but if I
am forced to decide how to use my own resources, LaViolette's thesis
does not strike me as worth the effort.

The original message has been edited to remove the offending material,
with the deleted section clearly marked.

Glenn Campbell
Ufomind Webmaster

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