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1988 outing near Rachel suggests UFO "pre-history"

From: campbell@ufomind.com (Glenn Campbell, Las Vegas)
Date: Thu, 11 Sep 1997 10:38:58 -0800
This story strikes me as interesting because it says that UFO watchers
were coming to the Rachel vicinity prior to Lazar's claims on Las
Vegas TV in 1989. I have no information at all on this social
"pre-history" and have always assumed that Lazar triggered the UFO
tourism.  If anyone has more info, please let me know. -- GC

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Date: 7 Sep 1997
From: JABALI <JABALI@prodigy.net>
To: "Glenn Campbell, Las Vegas" <campbell@ufomind.com>
Subject: October 1988    "lost time"

Glenn,

I have had an interesting experience that i care to share with you.  On
the 29th of October in 1988 i was driving northbound along the 15 hwy in
Riverside county, Calif.  My radio was OFF.  A voice said clearly " A.M.
1190".  I turned on my radio to that station and listened to a talk show
hosted by Adventure Radio.  This radio station does not exsist now...it
was shut down about 2 weeks later.  Anyway the subject was last years
Halloween riots and pranks, mutilated animals and such...then they
reported that there were two seats left on the bus leaving to Rachel
Nevada, area 51, dreamland, etc.  I turned my car around and headed back
to my friend's house with intent on prepairing to travel to Nevada and
look for UFO's.  2 hours later, we arrived and were admitted onto the
bus leaving from Anahiem, Calif.  The trip was rather uneventfull, we
made some friends en route, mostly talked about UFO encounters and
such..which by the way i have never had any such experience to my
recollection.  We arrived at the supposed Dreamland Vortex..i would
estimate about 2 hrs drive or so from Rachel.  We got out and mingled
with the 350 or so UFO buffs and other interesting beings gathered
around campfires speaking of underground facilities, and long tunnels
leading to various bases throughout the area, etc.  I was bored and
descided to climb a nearby hill to get a better view of the stars; 3
friends came along with me, one with binoculars.  We reached the top of
the hill and not long after, noticed a light far off in the distance.
It looked like an airplane's pilot light, but there were no wing lights
or fusulauge strobe, tail lights, etc. just the one rather bright pilot
light.  It was coming from the direction opposite of the large group of
people down below us about 100ft or so.  We took turns looking at it
through the binoculars, and then suddenly, the light turned dimm and
then red and slowly faded out.  We discussed it for some time and when
no solution was found as to what it was we saw, we descided to descend
and ask the "experts".  There was a great deal of commotion going on and
many people were saying things like "did you see it?", "It was long,
orange and cigar shaped", It was squat and silver disk shaped, and they
came out", "it was blue and flew by real fast", etc. but in each case,
not one single person had anything ANYTHING that resembled the other's
description of what happend.  It was crazy!  I think that the four of us
were the only one's unaffected by the spectacle.  It seemed like a big
group hallucination and everybody saw somthing, but the pattern
recognization skills could only relate to them what the conscience could
handle.  Anyhow, flabergasted, and in disbelief, we boarded our bus and
headed towards Rachel.  I awoke with a start abord the bus and found
that most of it's occupanst were either just waking up or still asleep.
I looked at my watch, it was one and a half hour later and we apparently
were almost to our destination.  Were did that time go?  How could i
have fell asleep so suddenly and how was it possible that every one else
seemed equal in position?  To this very day i have not been able to find
out what happen aboard that bus during that time, i constantly dread the
worst...implant!  I have a bumb on my head ...just behind my right
ear...this does not exsist anyware else on my body to my knowledge.
When ever i try to talk about it or attempt to have it removed, i feel
wierd...even typing about it right now is difficult..i find myself
loosing focus.  I need help.  Someone who has had the same experience or
can relate with me...i need to be seen by a physical therapist whom i
can trust.  The rest of the trip was uneventfull except for the fact
that we nailed a spy who called himself "orangefruit".  We overheard the
gaurds over at area 51 talking about giant chickens and refering to a
control # that obviously belonged to "orangefruit".  When we called him
on it, he promptly hung up and was never heard from again.  We made
recordings of the audio transactions that occurred between the gaurds
and planed to play it on the air through Adventure Radio.  The tape was
consficated and the station was replaced by a Christian Radio
broadcast.  Typical.  Anyway, i am serious about my request.  Please send
me any ANY info on who i can contact.

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Date: Mon, 8 Sep 1997 22:38:50 -0800
To: JABALI@prodigy.net
From: campbell@ufomind.com (Glenn Campbell, Las Vegas)
Subject: Re: October 1988    "lost time"

Thanks for the interesting story.  May I post it to the Area 51
mailing list?  (I can remove your name and email if you want.)

Are you sure of the date?  (That seems like an early year.)
Where, exactly, did this gathering take place?

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Date: Tue, 09 Sep 1997 11:37:41 -0700
From: JABALI <JABALI@prodigy.net>
To: "Glenn Campbell, Las Vegas" <campbell@ufomind.com>
Subject: Re: October 1988    "lost time"

I don't see any problem with distibution of this story.  Thank you for
asking.  As far as the date goes, I am absolutly sure of it's accuracy,
i remember it as if it was yesterday....vividly.  The location was
called "the Vortex".  It is apparently a common gathering place for
people who wish to see UFO's.  I think that we were the only one's who
didn't see one that night.  I can locate the place if i were to see it,
but realize this was 9 years ago.

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I have queried him to see if he knows the names of anyone involved in
the 1988 trip.  -- GC



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