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Re: FWD (IUFO) TOP SECRET UMBRA [NSA's UFO Files]

Date: Wed, 23 Aug 2000 22:30:31 -0700
From: Dan Zinngrabe 
Subject: Re: FWD (IUFO) TOP SECRET UMBRA [NSA's UFO Files]

>EXCLUSIVE FOR/EYES ONLY ECHELON (NSA, GCHQ ...) AND CARNIVORE (FBI)

Oh no, not that BS again.....
Has anyone bothered to read Bamford's book, which described what
people now insist is "Echelon" back in 1983? I could probably pay my
hosting bills for a few years by posting Amazon links for that book
to UFO mailing lists!

>QQQQ
>FORWARDED FROM THE IUFO MAILING LIST.
>CAVEATS AND MESSAGE FORMATTING LOOK FAMILIAR.
>WNINTEL AIR DEFENCE HOT SPOTS INDICATE ALL UFOS ARE BALLOONS!
>
>TWC
>
>P.S.:  Caveat - NSA site opens and spools slowly.
>
>---
>(Umbra has Latin roots, FWIW. Shelter. Cover. Help me, Obi Wan
>Kanobie! You're my only hope! --SW)
>
>------- Forwarded message follows -------
>Date sent:              Thu, 17 Aug 2000 23:56:07 +0000
>From:                   Scarecrow <scarecrow@colaw.net>
>Subject:                [SO] Top Secret Umbra
>To:                     Skyopen <Skyopen@egroups.com>
>Organization:           Search For Truth
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>Here is some more information regarding Security Classifications higher
>than Top Secret. I found in "Alien Agenda" by Jim Marrs, this quote by
>Barry Goldwater: "The subject of UFOs is one that has interested me for
>some long time. About 10 or 12 years ago I made an effort to find out
>what was in the building at Wright-Patterson AFB where the information
>is stored that has been collected by the Air Force, and I was
>understandably denied this request. It is still classified above Top
>Secret." Taken from a letter he wrote in March 28, 1975.

"Above Top Secret" is actually Secret Compartmented Information.
Legally, Top Secret is as high as it can go- but things like
compartmented information circumvent whatever law it was that laid
out classification levels back in the 1940s. UMBRA was a generic
compartment for SIGINT/COMINT material that NSA used until it was
publically compromised in the late 1970s or early 1980s, when UMBRA
was replaced with a new codeword. No one has ever denied UMBRA, and
it's been public knowledge for at least 20 years.

Dan


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