Cooper Blows His Top on Mailing List
Date: Mon, 10 Feb 1997 18:27:34 +0100
To: psyspy@vegas.infi.net (Glenn Campbell, Las Vegas)
From: John Joseph Mercieca
Subject: Bill Cooper blowing his top
Hi Glenn,
I manage a mailing list that is supplied by Pobox.Com and so I'm
subscribed to a listowner list (mandatory for all Pobox.com listowners).
Imagine my surprise when I found some 20 messages from "Harvest Trust"
aka William Cooper blowing his top about some problem or other he
had with his mailing list. I've collated his messages together and
am sending them attached in a text file FYI. Posting to the Area-51
list is at your discretion.
Regards,
JJ Mercieca
Malta UFO Research
http://www.mufor.org/
Delivered-To: cydonia-owner@majordomo.pobox.com
From: "Harvest Trust"
To:
Cc: , ,
, ,
Subject: Re: listowners-d: Re: URGENT: Is This A Pobox Error?
Date: Sun, 9 Feb 1997 10:37:26 -0700
Dear Jack,
Normally I just read the posts here and don't comment... BUT I'm getting
just a little fed up with your perpetual ass kissing. You must be living
under the protective umbrella of almighty God himself. Do you think all of
us other list owners are crazy? Do you think we are liars? What exactly
is it with you?
No one else but you seems to be getting good service from pobox... our
problems are real and we are injured when our lists do not work...
nevermind that we paid for the service. When I pay for something I expect
it to work as promised. Whenever I have had a problem it has eventually
been solved but getting it solved is like pulling teeth from a hens
mouth... and it takes a long time. How is it that your list operates so
perfectly and all your inquirys and complaints are answered and dealt with
so promptly? What are you doing and for whom are you doing it... that we
don't know about? As long as I don't have to blow somebody I'd like to get
the same service.
I have never been answered promptly except once by anyone when i have
attempted to communicate with the management. That once was wnen i got fed
up and sent a message directly to Reuven... which no one should ever have
to do. Every communication I have attempted with pobox has gone unanswered
for a week and sometimes more... many were never answered... assertions to
the contrary notwithstanding.
The last thing I or the rest of us needs is an apologist for the management
telling us that we are all imagining our problems. I've seen guys like you
everywhere and I have never liked them. This isn't school and ass kissing
won't get you a better grade... and it isn't your employer so you won't get
a promotion or a raise... so why don't you just shut the fuck up?
Nobody gives a damn how fast your complaint was answered or how well your
list is working. We care only how fast OUR complaints are answered and how
well OUR lists are working. YOU GOT THAT JACK?
We also know that management is trying Jack... we don't need you to tell
us. I have been involved in many start-ups and expansion projects and I
understand the pecularities of such endeavors Jack... and I resent your
elitist, know-it-all attitude. If I did not know these things Jackie baby
I would have told them to stick it a long time ago and left to find better
service elsewhere. I can be patient Jack... and I can work with them. But
I can't you... I don't have to take you... and I won't take you.
Don't bother answering Jack, because quite frankly, I've had it with you...
I don't ever want to open my mail and see another love letter from you to
management again telling us why we are so wrong and the management is so
lilly perfect and how your service is so fucking good... and while I'm
thinking of it Jack... wipe that brown stuff off your fucking nose.
Pardon my language folks... this asshole has really pissed me off... I
could vent it here or go beat my kids... and I NEVER beat my kids.
William Cooper
owner-caji@pobox.com
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> From: Jack Schnapper
> To: Meng Weng Wong
> Cc: listowners-d@majordomo.pobox.com; ssiegel@icgroup.com;
mdworkin@icgroup.com; rbell@icgroup.com
>
> Thank you Meng (and Reuven for your earlier reply) for the very rapid
> response. In fact, FYI to the list members, I received a reply back from
> Reuven within less than an hour after I sent the original query.
>
> Jack
>
> -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-
> Jack Schnapper - http://kajor.com/jack/
> jjflash@pobox.com - jjflash@kajor.com
> -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-
>
Delivered-To: cydonia-owner@majordomo.pobox.com
From: "Harvest Trust"
To:
Cc:
Subject: Re: listowners-d: Re: URGENT: Is This A Pobox Error?
Date: Sun, 9 Feb 1997 11:28:30 -0700
> From: Todd Hedenstrom
> To: listowners-d@majordomo.pobox.com
> Subject: Re: listowners-d: Re: URGENT: Is This A Pobox Error?
> Date: Sunday, February 09, 1997 11:01 AM
>
> Harvest Trust wrote:
>
> > Normally I just read the posts here and don't comment... BUT I'm getting
> > just a little fed up with your perpetual ass kissing. You must be living
> > under the protective umbrella of almighty God himself. Do you think all of
> > us other list owners are crazy? Do you think we are liars? What exactly
> > is it with you?
>
>
>
> Must be you - other than the one time *all* the lists blew up, I've had
> *zero* problems with my list at Pobox. I've got nothing but good to say
> of them- they've dealt with thier problems, owned up to them, and fixed
> them.
In the first place no one directed anything to you. Must be YOU do not
read this list... most of us are or have had serious problems with our
lists... I am happy that you have had no problems... I and many others have
had and continue to have problems. My list has been blown up a total of 4
times due to pobox. My subscriber list has disappeared a total of 3 times
due to pobox.
> You bitching someone out for saying something pleasant says a lot about
> you, however.
It is not his "saying something pleasant" that I'm fed up with... it is his
perpetual ass kissing and telling us that because his list works there must
be something wrong with us because ours doesn't. What it says about me is
that I've had it with Jack's busybody elitist attitude and Jack can go
stick it where the sun don't shine... and if you don't like it you can do
the same.
owner-caji@pobox.com
>
> --
> Todd++
> vom Dixie Drahthaars
> http://www.drahthaar.com/
>
Delivered-To: cydonia-owner@majordomo.pobox.com
From: "Harvest Trust"
To:
Cc: , ,
, ,
,
Subject: Re: listowners-d: Re: URGENT: Is This A Pobox Error?
Date: Sun, 9 Feb 1997 11:31:12 -0700
Good for you. Wish I and others who have been with these people for going
on two years now could say the same...
owner-caji@pobox.com
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> From: Bill Cooke
> To: Harvest Trust
> Cc: jack@mailzone.com; mengwong@RES2.RESNET.UPENN.EDU;
listowners-d@majordomo.pobox.com; ssiegel@icgroup.com;
mdworkin@icgroup.com; rbell@icgroup.com
> Subject: Re: listowners-d: Re: URGENT: Is This A Pobox Error?
> Date: Sunday, February 09, 1997 11:25 AM
>
> The service that I am getting is just fine.
> I am very happy with it.
>
Delivered-To: cydonia-owner@majordomo.pobox.com
From: "Harvest Trust"
To:
Cc:
Subject: Re: listowners-d: Re: URGENT: Is This A Pobox Error?
Date: Sun, 9 Feb 1997 12:09:07 -0700
Oh yeah... Jack... the service is so damn good here that I am getting TWO
of every post to this list... now tell me how your list never gets two
posts and how management could not possibly be allowing this to happen
Jack...
Come on Jack this is an opportune time to kiss some more ass...
owner-caji@pobox.com
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> From: Jack Schnapper
> To: Harvest Trust
> Cc: Pobox Listowners
> Subject: Re: listowners-d: Re: URGENT: Is This A Pobox Error?
> Date: Sunday, February 09, 1997 11:30 AM
>
> At 10:37 AM 2/9/97 -0700, Harvest Trust wrote:
>
> >Normally I just read the posts here and don't comment... BUT I'm getting
> >just a little fed up with your perpetual ass kissing. You must be living
> >under the protective umbrella of almighty God himself. Do you think all of
> >us other list owners are crazy? Do you think we are liars? Whatexactly
> >is it with you?
>
> Apparently you are so damn smart that you weren't around when I was
> bitching and likening calling Pobox's "888" number to calling the weather
> report. Who do you think you are telling me that I haven't the right to
> compliment Pobox when they deliver good service? I believe that if people
> complain about poor service, then they should also recognize good service.
> I do both. If you don't like it , tough s*it! If you see a message from
> me, just delete it!
>
> >No one else but you seems to be getting good service from pobox... our
>
> I doubt that! Have you polled every list-owner? Let's hear from everyone?
> Is this guy right?
>
> >problems are real and we are injured when our lists do not work...
> >nevermind that we paid for the service. When I pay for something I expect
> >it to work as promised. Whenever I have had a problem it has eventually
> >been solved but getting it solved is like pulling teeth from a hens
> >mouth... and it takes a long time. How is it that your list operates so
>
> >From your tone, apparently you are given back the treatment and courtesy
> that you give. I, too, initially tried being a nasty SOB, as you are, to
> the folks at Pobox. I found out that it didn't work. I found out that the
> old saying "you catch more flies with honey than you do with vinegar" is
> true. If you'd just treat these people with some respect (as you'd expect
> to be treated), maybe they'd go the extra mile for you. Nobody is keeping
> you a captive list-owner at Pobox. You choose to stay with them. I
> suspect that you do so because they do deliver a pretty good (and getting
> better all the time; yes, I guess this is more "ass kissing," as you put
> it) service at a fair price.
>
> >perfectly and all your inquirys and complaints are answered and dealt with
> >so promptly? What are you doing and for whom are you doing it... that we
> >don't know about? As long as I don't have to blow somebody I'd like to get
> >the same service.
>
> If I were the owner of Pobox, I would discontinue your service IMMEDIATELY
> for this remark! I personally take offense to it and am requesting that
> Reuven consider immediately terminating your service (with no time for you
> to move your list; that should be your problem).
>
> >The last thing I or the rest of us needs is an apologist for the management
> >telling us that we are all imagining our problems. I've seen guys like you
> >everywhere and I have never liked them. This isn't school and ass kissing
> >won't get you a better grade... and it isn't your employer so you won't get
> >a promotion or a raise... so why don't you just shut the fuck up?
>
> Tell me where I have apologized for Pobox's management? Where have I
> stated that anyone was imagining their problems? Send me a quote!
>
> As for your "shut the fuk up" comment, this is clearly an abuse of this
> list and I hope that Reuven takes the appropriate action. You have not
> only offended me, but probably others too!
>
> >Nobody gives a damn how fast your complaint was answered or how well your
> >list is working. We care only how fast OUR complaints are answered and how
> >well OUR lists are working. YOU GOT THAT JACK?
>
> You got what I'm saying! You are a crude, rude, manner-less individual!
>
> >We also know that management is trying Jack... we don't need you to tell
> >us. I have been involved in many start-ups and expansion projects and I
> >understand the pecularities of such endeavors Jack... and I resent your
> >elitist, know-it-all attitude. If I did not know these things Jackie baby
> >I would have told them to stick it a long time ago and left to find better
> >service elsewhere. I can be patient Jack... and I can work with them. But
> >I can't you... I don't have to take you... and I won't take you.
>
> And what are you planning to do about it? This certainly sounds like a
> threat to me. I shall now send your message and my reply, in full, to your
> provider. This is clearly Internet abuse.
>
> >Don't bother answering Jack, because quite frankly, I've had it with you...
> >I don't ever want to open my mail and see another love letter from you to
> >management again telling us why we are so wrong and the management is so
> >lilly perfect and how your service is so fucking good... and while I'm
> >thinking of it Jack... wipe that brown stuff off your fucking nose.
>
> Yet another sign of your immaturity!
>
> >Pardon my language folks... this asshole has really pissed me off... I
> >could vent it here or go beat my kids... and I NEVER beat my kids.
>
> You've created your own problem. Now you can live with it!
>
> -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-
> Jack Schnapper - http://kajor.com/jack/
> jjflash@pobox.com - jjflash@kajor.com
> -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-
>
Delivered-To: cydonia-owner@majordomo.pobox.com
From: "Harvest Trust"
To:
Cc: , ,
, ,
Subject: listowners-d: Solved my problem
Date: Sun, 9 Feb 1997 12:25:58 -0700
I have unsubscribed from listowners-d mailing list to which I never
subscribed in the first place and for which I have never had any need.
Would someone please make sure the "unsubscribe request" goes through in an
expeditious manner... i kid you not I cannot take even one more of Jack's
sanctimonious posts.
That will solve my problem... don't know why I didn't think of it before
this... maybe in hopes the list would actually serve some purpose.
owner-caji@pobox.com
Delivered-To: cydonia-owner@majordomo.pobox.com
Date: 9 Feb 1997 20:39:35 -0000
From: "Harvest Trust"
To:
Cc: , ,
,
Subject: listowners-d: Date: Sun, 9 Feb 1997 13:40:01 -0700
Well it looks like I'm not going to be able to unsubscribe from
listowners-d after all. Below you will find the majordomo's answer to my
three attempts to unsubscribe from this list. Then I get a post from a
fellow named Larry White (post included at end of this post) who tells me
he unsubscribed, quit pobox.com and went elswhere for better service and is
still to this day subscribed to this list and he has not been a listowner
here for some time.
I guess Jack has an answer for that... don't you Jack? You gonna tell me
that you have no trouble unsubscribing and that it is just my
imagination... huh Jack? Come on Jack... let's hear your routine on this
one.
Better yet... let's NOT ever again hear your BS.
owner-caji
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> From: Majordomo@majordomo.pobox.com
> To: harvest@whitemtns.com
> Subject: Majordomo results: .
> Date: Sunday, February 09, 1997 12:19 PM
>
> --
>
> >>>> unsubscribe listowners-d harvest@whitemtns.com
> **** unsubscribe: 'harvest@whitemtns.com' is not a member of list
'listowners-d'.
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> From: Majordomo@majordomo.pobox.com
> To: harvest@whitemtns.com
> Subject: Majordomo results: .
> Date: Sunday, February 09, 1997 12:28 PM
>
> --
>
> >>>> unsubscribe listowners-d owner-caji@majordomo.pobox.com
> **** unsubscribe: 'owner-caji@majordomo.pobox.com' is not a member of
list 'listowners-d'.
----------
> From: Majordomo@majordomo.pobox.com
> To: harvest@whitemtns.com
> Subject: Majordomo results: .
> Date: Sunday, February 09, 1997 1:29 PM
>
> --
>
> >>>> unsubscribe listowners-d owner-caji@pobox.com
X-Sender: mufor@maltanet.omnes.net
Mime-Version: 1.0
Date: Mon, 10 Feb 1997 18:27:34 +0100
To: psyspy@vegas.infi.net (Glenn Campbell, Las Vegas)
From: John Joseph Mercieca
Subject: Bill Cooper blowing his top
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'listowners-d'.
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'listowners-d'.
> >>>> unsubscribe listowners-d caji-owner@majordomo.pobox.com
> Your request to Majordomo@majordomo.pobox.com:
>
> unsubscribe listowners-d caji-owner@majordomo.pobox.com
>
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>
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>
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>
>
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> Majordomo@majordomo.pobox.com
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> From: Larry White
> To: listowners-d@majordomo.pobox.com
> Subject: Re: listowners-d: Solved my problem ?
> Date: Sunday, February 09, 1997 12:57 PM
>
> At 12:25 PM 2/9/97 -0700, "Harvest Trust" wrote:
>
> "I have unsubscribed from listowners-d mailing list to which I never
> subscribed in the first place and for which I have never had any need."
>
> Hi List Owners;
>
> It is somewhat amusing to note that I have sent 3 unsubscribe commands to
> pobox.com and received a reply to the effect that it was awaiting approval.
> To date no such approval has been acted upon.
>
> I cancelled my request for majordomo service with Pobox.com after a 3 week
> wait and before it was delivered, and I am now with Bolis.com where I
have
> received good service and where they had me up and running within 24
hours
> of my request for service. It cost me $40 with a $35 startup fee. Each
> additional year is $40.
>
> So here I am receiving posts from listowners-d and I am not even a
> subscriber to Pobox.com services.
>
> Larry White lewhite@pipeline.com
>
Delivered-To: cydonia-owner@majordomo.pobox.com
From: "Harvest Trust"
To:
Cc: ,
Subject: Re: listowners-d: Re: URGENT: Is This A Pobox Error?
Date: Sun, 9 Feb 1997 14:41:26 -0700
----------
> From: Ted Timmons
> To: toddh@drahthaar.com; listowners-d@majordomo.pobox.com
> Subject: Re: listowners-d: Re: URGENT: Is This A Pobox Error?
> Date: Sunday, February 09, 1997 1:48 PM
>
> At 01:01 PM 2/9/97 -0500, Todd Hedenstrom wrote:
> >
>
> >Must be you - other than the one time *all* the lists blew up, I've had
> >*zero* problems with my list at Pobox. I've got nothing but good to say
> >of them- they've dealt with thier problems, owned up to them, and fixed
> >them.
>
> Yep. I haven't been a pobox long, but I've had much better service than the
> local provider that I was using for majordomo. They blanked out my list
> every other day - my subscribers were getting tired of getting subscribe
> notices..
Just what we need... an instant expert. Too bad you haven't been around
this pobox group long. I've been here going on two years and may be one of
their first group of customers. My list has crashed 4 times due to pobox
and my entire subscriber list has been wiped clean 3 times resulting in
months of work lost... not to mention weeks of getting floods of duplicate,
triplicate, and quadruplicate messages... and then there was the time when
no one received anything posted to the list for three weeks... and much,
much, more. You sound just like another busybody, nose where it doesn't
belong Jack. If you knew even one one-hundredth of what you think you know
you would probably be changing again.
I stuck with these people through all the problems and didn't run away like
you did from your last server. Until you have been through what I have
been through with this pobox and its management don't you even think about
telling me anything about how good or bad it may be. I have demonstrated
my loyalty and my willingness to be patient and stick it out untill all the
bugs have been dealt with. Meng was fabulous in the early days of my
association with pobox and, thought slow at times, always helped me solve
my problems. Reuven is fast and thorough and I commend him... BUT if his
staff were doing their jobs no one would have to go to the top to get
things done around here. My problem is not with them... as I stated in the
post that you apparently did not read... I have been involved with many
start-ups and expansion programs and know full well the unique problems
involved.
That is not the issue here and it never was the issue here. Jack is the
issue. I'm sick and tired of seeing someone post a message begging
management to at least answer their posts much less deal with the problem
and then see "good ole ass kissing Jack" post a message telling us all how
he never fails to get an immediate answer and how his list never has any
trouble and how management is responding to our needs. Our list problems
are real and we want an answer within a reasonable amount of time and we
want the problem fixed and it is between us and management and not "good
ole ass kissing Jack" or you. When we have to go to Meng or Reuven to get
an answer or to get a problem solved it is a clear signal that there is
something terribly wrong with staffing and personnel and not with the
software and ole Jack doesn't know what he is talking about most of the
time and it is none of his business anyway. If I ever want a partner it
sure won't be ole Jack... and partnership is the only way my business will
ever become the business of ole Jack.
>
> >You bitching someone out for saying something pleasant says a lot about
> >you, however.
>
> If you don't like the heat, get out of the fire. There are other companies
> that do majordomo, and I feel sorry for them if they take you as a
> customer. (no, not you, Todd :^)
Apparently you cannot read english... my problem is not with pobox or with
the management... it never was... it is with ass kissing Jack. When I have
a problem with pobox or its management I take it up with them. They have
asked us to be patient and understanding and, for the most part, I have
done that... and I stated as much in the posts you apparently "think" you
read.
>
> In short, they aren't perfect, but they're working on the problems, at
least.
You don't even know what you are talking about... rookie. Pay your dues
here before you tell me they "aren't perfect, but they're working on the
problems," Nobody knows that better than me... Those of us who have been
here for a long time know more about the problems of pobox than you ever
will... and now that they are finally getting the problems worked out they
tell us they are going to switch software and start all over again.
Thankfully they will allow us to choose whether to stay with pobox or
switch... it might surprise you to know that I will elect to stay with
pobox as I know that they have worked out most of the bugs and that the
problems we experience now are personnel and management problems and not
pobox problems.
> --
> -=TED=- O- JAPH tedder@mailzone.com PGP available
>
> Those who learn from history are doomed to have it repeated to them >
anyway.
> -Larry
Wall
I was here to make the history... and while others bailed out I stayed... I
know the history... I helped make it... Jack wants us all to pretend it
didn't happen and that because he apparently doesn't have any problems that
somehow ours are all imaginary... and you wouldn't know the history of this
pobox group if it hit you upside the head. So I advise you to read and
accept the advice of your own cutesy little quote before giving any advice
to any of us. And I bet that somewhere along the line your mommy told you
to mind your own business... didn't she?
owner-caji
Delivered-To: cydonia-owner@majordomo.pobox.com
From: "Harvest Trust"
To:
Cc:
Subject: Re: listowners-d: Date: Sun, 9 Feb 1997 13:40:01 -0700
Date: Sun, 9 Feb 1997 14:50:39 -0700
> From: Jack Schnapper
> To: Pobox Listowners
> Cc: Harvest Trust
> Subject: Re: listowners-d: Date: Sun, 9 Feb 1997 13:40:01 -0700
> Date: Sunday, February 09, 1997 1:58 PM
On Sunday, February 09, 1997 1:58 PM Jack Schnapper wrote:
>
> People who really know anything about this stuff understand that
regardless
> of un-subbing, messages that have been queued for delivery go out to
> those who were list-members when those messages were queued. But I
> suppose some people just don't understand "complicated" stuff like this.
Gee Jack... How did I know you would have an explanation... I forgot that
you are the only one on earth who knows anything about anything... gee Jack
I'm glad you explained it to me... did you also explain it to Larry White
in the post below? Huh Jack? Huh? Huh? Gee Jack... you sure know it
all... Huh Jack? Huh? Huh Jack? GET IT YET JACK?
> From: Larry White
> To: listowners-d@majordomo.pobox.com
> Subject: Re: listowners-d: Solved my problem ?
> Date: Sunday, February 09, 1997 12:57 PM
>
> At 12:25 PM 2/9/97 -0700, "Harvest Trust" wrote:
>
> "I have unsubscribed from listowners-d mailing list to which I never
> subscribed in the first place and for which I have never had any need."
>
> Hi List Owners;
>
> It is somewhat amusing to note that I have sent 3 unsubscribe commands to
> pobox.com and received a reply to the effect that it was awaiting
approval.
> To date no such approval has been acted upon.
>
> I cancelled my request for majordomo service with Pobox.com after a 3
week
> wait and before it was delivered, and I am now with Bolis.com where I
have
> received good service and where they had me up and running within 24
hours
> of my request for service. It cost me $40 with a $35 startup fee. Each
> additional year is $40.
>
> So here I am receiving posts from listowners-d and I am not even a
> subscriber to Pobox.com services.
>
> Larry White lewhite@pipeline.com
>
Delivered-To: cydonia-owner@majordomo.pobox.com
Delivered-To: listowners-d-outgoing@majordomo.pobox.com
From: "Harvest Trust"
To:
Subject: listowners-d: There really is a God
Date: Sun, 9 Feb 1997 14:59:01 -0700
Thank you kindly... whoever is responsible. See what a few well chosen
words can do... this is the fastest response I have ever had from anyone at
pobox other than Reuven, who's answer has always been instantaneous.
Thank God I won't have to see anymore of Jack's ass kissing messages.
Goodbye
owner-caji
>
>Dear Sir:
>
>Per your requests, you have been removed from listowners-d
>subscription. Due to a security measure of majordomo, you were unable
>to unsubscribe yourself from your real email address without approval
>of the listowner. I apologize for the inconvenience.
>
>cheers
>Helen Horstmann
>Customer Service
>pobox@pobox.com
>
>DO NOT DELETE THIS LINE. Ticket is PTN.19970209.0016M
Delivered-To: cydonia-owner@majordomo.pobox.com
From: "Harvest Trust"
To:
Cc:
Subject: Re: listowners-d: There really is a God
Date: Sun, 9 Feb 1997 15:06:51 -0700
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> From: Ted Timmons
> To: Harvest Trust ;
listowners-d@majordomo.pobox.com
> Subject: Re: listowners-d: There really is a God
> Date: Sunday, February 09, 1997 3:01 PM
>
> At 02:59 PM 2/9/97 -0700, Harvest Trust wrote:
> >Thank you kindly... whoever is responsible. See what a few well chosen
> >words can do... this is the fastest response I have ever had from anyone
at
> >pobox other than Reuven, who's answer has always been instantaneous.
>
> Heh, they're VERY happy to see you go..
Poor child... you just don't know when to stop soiling your diaper...
>
> >Thank God I won't have to see anymore of Jack's ass kissing messages.
>
> Nah, we thank you!
You are most certainly welcome.
> --
> -=TED=- O- JAPH tedder@mailzone.com PGP available
>
> Those who learn from history are doomed to have it repeated to them
anyway.
> -Larry
Wall
Cute... cute... when are you going to read it yourself?
Delivered-To: cydonia-owner@majordomo.pobox.com
From: "Harvest Trust"
To:
Cc:
Subject: Re: listowners-d: Re: URGENT: Is This A Pobox Error?
Date: Sun, 9 Feb 1997 17:15:56 -0700
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> From: Todd Hedenstrom
> To: Harvest Trust
> Cc: listowners-d@majordomo.pobox.com
> Subject: Re: listowners-d: Re: URGENT: Is This A Pobox Error?
> Date: Sunday, February 09, 1997 3:48 PM
>
> Harvest Trust wrote:
>
> > In the first place no one directed anything to you.
>
> I know this may be a bit advanced for you, but didn't you know that when
> you cc the list, you directed this at me, in addition to many others?
> Perhaps you should learn a bit about lists before you complain so
> heartily about them.
Here we go again... another long nosed puppet that cannot read english. If
you are a good little wooden head you might turn into a real boy someday.
My post was clearly addressed to "Dear Jack"... or did you get that far in
your grade school corespondence class? I'll complain about anything I
please whenever I please when I am PAYING for the service.
>
> --
> Todd++
> vom Dixie Drahthaars
> http://www.drahthaar.com/
Delivered-To: cydonia-owner@majordomo.pobox.com
From: "Harvest Trust"
To:
Cc:
Subject: Re: listowners-d: Re: URGENT: Is This A Pobox Error?
Date: Sun, 9 Feb 1997 20:01:31 -0700
There is a big difference between my list and listowners-d. The major
difference is that I PAY for service here which includes listowners-d and
that service that I pay for does NOT include being constantly bombarded by
kiss ass Jack's constant flow of BS. I have never received any rules for
listowners-d list although there probably should be rules. How I handle
so-called "flame wars" on my list is simply not applicable here. How the
Afghanistan tribes milk their goats also has no bearing whatsoever on the
listowners-d list. This is a part of the service for which I PAY MONEY and
that gives me the priviledge to speak up when I think my money is being
wasted by jerks like Jack..
That answer your question? Anybody else want to stick their nose in my
business?
----------
> From: Ishgooda
> To: Harvest Trust
> Cc: listowners-d@majordomo.pobox.com
> Subject: Re: listowners-d: Re: URGENT: Is This A Pobox Error?
> Date: Sunday, February 09, 1997 7:45 PM
>
> Khwe Sir,
> I am interested in how you handle flame wars on your list??
> Ish
>
>
> At 05:15 PM 2/9/97 -0700, Harvest Trust wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> >----------
> >> From: Todd Hedenstrom
> >> To: Harvest Trust
> >> Cc: listowners-d@majordomo.pobox.com
> >> Subject: Re: listowners-d: Re: URGENT: Is This A Pobox Error?
> >> Date: Sunday, February 09, 1997 3:48 PM
> >>
> >> Harvest Trust wrote:
> >>
> >> > In the first place no one directed anything to you.
> >>
> >> I know this may be a bit advanced for you, but didn't you know that when
> >> you cc the list, you directed this at me, in addition to many others?
> >> Perhaps you should learn a bit about lists before you complain so
> >> heartily about them.
> >
> >Here we go again... another long nosed puppet that cannot read english. If
> >you are a good little wooden head you might turn into a real boy someday.
> >My post was clearly addressed to "Dear Jack"... or did you get that far in
> >your grade school corespondence class? I'll complain about anything I
> >please whenever I please when I am PAYING for the service.
> >
> >>
> >> --
> >> Todd++
> >> vom Dixie Drahthaars
> >> http://www.drahthaar.com/
> >
[ Bill Cooper ]
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