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Project Tobacco: Claimed NM underground base

From: "John Greenewald, Jr." <greeney@primenet.com>
Date: Tue, 10 Feb 1998 16:54:04 -0800

Project Tobacco? What exactly is it?
By: John Greenewald, Jr.

Running an internet web site, I get many pranksters, jokers, and liars
write me and tell me they are from the government, they are going to
kill me, or other rediculous claims, but there have been a few where
it made me think, "Maybe this one is for real."  I got a letter, and
by request, I will call him Benjamin".  Now, "Benjamin" wrote me in
regards to my web site, telling me about the Snowbird Aircraft
photograph I have on my web site. For those who are not familiar with
this photograph, it is a supposed alien aircraf, and the picture is
the craft mounted on top of a pylon, possibly at a Lockheed plant or
even Area 51. Now, "Benjamin" told me that this was an X-151 aircraft
from Project Torridor.  "Benjamin" went on to say that you would never
get a picture of an alien aircraft in the daylight.

This was "Benjamin"'s first letter to me, and being taken back by his
knowledge about the craft, I still was not convinced of his claims.  I
made a FOIA request to the United States Air Force, requesting a
picture of the X-151, unfortunately, I have been given no answer as of
yet.

"Benjamin" worked for the National Reconnaisance Office.  All "Black
Projects" are compartmentalizerd, that way no agency can really know
what the other is doing. He went on to tell me a bit about a base in
New Mexico, in a mountain called Baldy. The base is 200 feet deep, and
30 acres square. There are 1,500 from another world  working there.
They come from a dead planet in the Cygnus Ra Star System.  "Benjamin"
worked there, and gave me the exact coordinates: 21hours 13minutes
52seconds D33degrees 10'.  The aliens, in exchange for us giving them
a place to live, they will help us advance to join some kind of an
alliance of planets.  They hope that we will be ready by the year
2025.  This is where Project Tobacco comes in. Project Tobacco is a
project to get the public ready for this event.  It is done through
movies, media, books, television, and magazines.  Project Tobacco was
given it's name because if anybody else would find out about it, it
would burn up like Tobacco. So, on December 09, 1997, I wrote a
Freedom of Information Act request to the United States Air Force, and
also to Wright Patterson Air Force Base, which "Benjamin" told me was
part of the project. I received 2 letters back, both dated December
29, 1997.  The first was just an aknowledgment receipt.  The second,
was a letter starting off saying "This office is not a repository for
UFO information."  It went on to give me informartion on UFOs and
Project Blue Book, and they attached a Fact Sheet on UFOs, a page I
have been given many times. Confused, I checked back to my letter, not
1 mention of UFOs, aliens, anything for them to spark a response like
that, NOTHING.  Was this a goof-up? "Benjamin" was very surprised I
got this response, and he told me it was definately a mistake. Wright
Patterson is still to respond, but what will I get, if anything, from
them?  Now I am getting very interested, possibly "Benjamin" is
telling the turh. Or maybe the Air Force did goof-up, but maybe they
just figured I was tallking about UFOs?  Highly unlikely, because not
all my requests to them deal with UFOs.

Now, I am going to do an excerpt out of one of "Benjamin"'s letters,
because I figure if I paraphrase it, I will just get the information
mixed up. So here it is: "I worked on the Gravity Catapult. Einstein
General Theory has a  number of similarites to the Maxwell theory of
electromagmetism. In  electromagnetism, the basic source of all the
forces is the charge in  the electron. The charge generates an
electric field. If you move the charge to form an electric current,
the current generates a magnetic field. If you increase or decrease a
magnetic field, that hanging magnetic field in turn generates an
electric field. The same thing happens in gravity. The basic source of
all the forces is the mass of whatever particles you are using. The
mass generates a gravity field. If you move the particles to form a
mass current, the current generates a new field that is the
gravitational equivalent of the magnetic field. (an anti-gravity
engine). We have it, have had it for several years now and I worked on
it. Why do you think NASA is slowly trying to down-size. They keep
calling for smaller cheaper engines and so forth. They know that the
present form of space-flight as well as transportation here on Earth
is about to change. They don't want to waste the money...but they have
to or everyone will wonder why. The use millions of dollars of
tax-payer money on useless stuff!  This engine uses no fuel, has no
sound and can never break. Since it uses gravitational fields for
motion...as long as you have gravity, the engine will work."

Is this infformation real? Did the United States Air Force make a huge
mistake by referencing UFOs on a Project Tobacco FOIA request? You
decide, here is the information, and the United States Air Force
letter can be seen on my web site, at
http://www.blackvault.com/foia/af_index.html

END

Original Date: Mon, 19 Jan 1998 09:00:08 -0800
Original Subject: Project Tobacco? What exactly is it?

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