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Misc: Seeking Roosevelt's Incident of 1947 [15 msgs]

From: campbell@ufomind.com (Glenn Campbell, Las Vegas)
Date: Mon, 16 Feb 1998 00:11:03 -0800

USE OF DEADLY FARCE?

Date: Mon, 2 Feb 1998 03:54:25 -0500 (EST)
From: JIM BLACKBURN <jadesdane@aol.com>
Subject: Use of deadly force authorized!
Commenting on: http://www.ufomind.com/area51/org/basecamp/pix/

Now why is that the media always shows the signs that have "USE OF
DEADLY FORCE AUTHORIZED".

Don't they know that every military facility has those signs posted.
Especially near their flightlines. I am currently in the Air Force and
a Loadmaster on a C-5 and every flightline I have been on,including
civilian,have these signs posted on their gates or fences.The civilian
signs obvisiously don't have the military installation part on
them,but the deadly force part is there. The media wants to show the
signs making you think there are some kind of "secret" operations
going on.

[Shockingly close to the truth! --gc]

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ROSWELL/CLINTON CONNECTION

Date: Wed, 28 Jan 1998 10:56:48 -0500
From: Steve Douglass <webbfeat@arn.net>
Subject: Humor: on topic

Last night on Politically Incorrect, Bill Mahr said "The Right Wing
conspiracy to get the Ppresident runs as deep as the conspiracy
surrounding Roswell. In fact we've just discovered a new place in the
White House called Area 69"

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DEEP BLUE'S NEW CAREER

Date: Sat, 14 Feb 1998 19:07:38 -0500 (EST)
Subject: Deep Blue's New Career
From: Frank Moriarty <frankm@voicenet.com>

Since there were several references to IBM's Deep Blue computer in the
recent ACC/Shulman/Wang brouhaha, I thought you might be interested to
know that Deep Blue now has drawn military duty, according to the
February 9, 1998 issue of Information Week.

In a brief article headlined "From Chess Games to War Games," Tom
Davey reports that Deep Blue has been upgraded from 32 to 512
processors "to simulate the impact of fires, earthquakes, and other
natural disasters" on the nation's nuclear arsenal at Lawrence
Livermore National Lab. "Our goal is to get 3 trillion calculations
per second in 1999," says a Livermore spokesman.

Regards, Frank
http://www.voicenet.com/~portiam/frank/

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AIRSPACE OVER DULCE

Date: Tue, 27 Jan 1998 12:14:57 -0500 (EST)
Subject: RE: Brad Smith on Paul Bennewitz and Dulce
From: Jilain <jilain@rt66.com>

>From:  Brad Smith
>
>I spoke to Paul twice in extended conversations in
>1988-89. I called Thunder Scientific.
>    He was spacy but understandable.
>He was a pilot. His business took him from Albuquerque to
>Denver frequently. He told me he had taken some photos out
>of the plane on several different trips on his way over
>the Archuleta Mesa.

My understanding is that the area over Archuleta Mesa is a "restricted air
space", as in commercial craft and private planes are not allowed.  That
information came from a friend who is a nurse onboard a medivac chopper.

Any commerical pilots out there who can comment on this point?

Jilain

[The airspace is unrestricted I believe. --GC]

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ACC IN PC MAGAZINES

Re: http://www.ufomind.com/misc/1998/feb/d11-005.shtml

Date: Wed, 11 Feb 1998 10:08:29 -0800
From: Grant Nieting <danemfg@mailbag.com>
Subject: Moderator comments (?)

Ref: Feb 11 Mailing list, Re: American Computer Company and its many
domains (Ed Komarek).

You are definitely out of character by attacking the source not the
info. as presented in this post.  You always seem to walk the fine
line between the two rather well but not this time.  It must be that
super-sophisticated dis-information agent showing through or just a
bad day.  8-)

Think back a few years to PC Magazine or PC World magazine and you
would remember seeing double page full color ads for ACC computers
long before all this shit hit the fan.

[I wrote back that I would like to have one of those ads to scan
for the web. --GC]

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SPY SATELLITE DOWN

Re: http://www.ufomind.com/misc/1998/jan/d17-001.shtml

Date: Sat, 17 Jan 1998 19:22:42 -0500 (EST)
Subject: re: A spy satellite of one's own
From: Kerry Ferrand <kerry@hungerford.chch.cri.nz>

I think it might be a good idea to point out that Earlybird-1 has been
silent in orbit for almost 3 weeks and is probably dead. They've even
enlisted the help of radio amateurs to try and listen for its beacon,
but with no luck so far. We may be waiting a little longer to buy our
own spy sat photos.

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BOMARC MISSILE SITE, NEW JERSEY

From: Tkjr911@aol.com
Date: Sat, 14 Feb 1998 12:47:56 EST
Subject: info on bomarc missle site

I am interested in finding information about the Bomarc Missle Site
located in New Egypt, NJ. I do know that in 1960 there was an accident
involving a fire which occurred while refueling a missle carrying a
nuclear warhead. I work in that area and was eager to see if I could
find more info about the accident and the missle site while it was in
operation. I have heard several stories from residents who live in the
area, but there are so many variations, I dont know which is accurate.
Any info would be greatly appreciated.

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WONDERING WHAT'S BEHIND THAT DOOR?

Anonymous Feedback Message
Date: Thu, 5 Feb 1998 01:46:01 -0500 (EST)
Commenting on: http://www.ufomind.com/area51/

        WONDERING WHAT'S BEHIND THAT DOOR? LOOK UP DOCUMENT
#DC-331-UD:1189(L).BOX #919,1945-1948.LEGAL SECTION/ADMN.DIV.AREA CASE
FILES:51.PERSONEL INFORMATION PROTECTED UNDER USC-5-552.   THEN
TRY,UNDER THE HEADING OF,GOLDWATER'S VISIT TO NELLIS
AFB.DOC.#NWDNM(M)-342 USAF-45693.IT'S ABOUT HIS TEST FLIGHT IN THE
THEN NEW F-111.REMEMBER HE WAS A LT.GENERAL AT THE TIME.(RESERVES) PAY
ATTENTION WHERE THE AIFCRAFT HEADS AFTER TAKE-OFF. NOW,JUST TO MAKE
YOU WONDER,TRY THE WEB SITE FOR THE NATIONAL ARCHIVES @
WWW.NARA.COM.GO TO THE NAIL SEARCH FORUM.IT MAY TAKE SOME TIME TO GET
INTO.WHEN YOU ARE THERE,TYPE THE FOLLOWING USING ALL THREE SEARCH
BOXES.NEVADA CRASH TEST AT NELLIS AIR FORCE BASE/SECRET TESTS AT
AREA-51/AREA/51.TYPE THEM OUT IN EACH BOX AS I HAVE HERE.YOU WILL BE
ENLIGHTENED.MORE TO COME.

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VERIFYING FRIEDMAN'S RESPONSE

Re: http://www.ufomind.com/misc/1998/feb/d01-002.shtml

Date: Sun, 1 Feb 1998 22:58:20 -0500 (EST)
Subject: Re: Friedman challenges Boylan on Michael Wolf
From: Jilain <jilain@rt66.com>

The email address listed here is indeed that of Stanton Friedman.  And
knowing Stan, this sounds very much like him.  I'm personally glad he
finally got enough of Boylan's crap.

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APPRECIATION

From: "Eric Hall" <egg@fidalgo.net>
To: <campbell@ufomind.com>
Date: Sun, 25 Jan 1998 17:33:21 -0800

Glenn, I just wanted to drop you a note of appreciation for your coverage
of Area 51, Las Vegas, and the strange cultural fabric they weave.  What
could be more interesting than the intersection of the high desert and it's
moon-scapish landscapes, secret government bases, old a-bomb test sites,
'Vegas (a city that seems to have suffered from a massive radiation leak
resulting in growth of grotesquely huge and cartoonish casinos), and the
people that inhabit the region:  Native Americans, UFO buffs, some of the
smartest people in the world (working on the most closely guarded
government projects), tourists, and the folks that just like living out in
the middle of nowhere.

I read about you in the book by David Darlington, "Area 51: The Dreamland
Chronicles".  I've always wanted to go to Las Vegas and all the Test Sites
and Area 51, and the book got my interest up again.

[Book: http://www.ufomind.com/catalog/d/darlington ]

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WHY WON'T CAMPBELL COME CLEAN?

Date: Wed, 28 Jan 1998 02:37:47 -0500 (EST)
Commenting on: http://www.ufomind.com/index.shtml
From:  <maxon@slinknet.com>

I would like to say for number one that you all have no proof. If you
did you would probly blow it all over the news as well as the internet
and as far as Glenn Campbell if he had worked out at area51 he would
had more information than he has brought forward. I would also like to
know with all of the technology of video and camera why after all the
photo`s that have been taken why one just one photo show upclose what
these photo`s realy are and not just some lights in the sky. If you
can get just one good photo of these types of aircraft and not fake it
you mite have something.

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THE PRESIDENT JACKSON CONNECTION

From: Al Rhiel <utopia@eohio.net>
To: "'webmaster@ufomind.com'" <webmaster@ufomind.com>
Subject: Warning
Date: Mon, 9 Feb 1998 17:23:27 -0500

The government knows that ufo's do not exist, because they made them.
70 years ago they started expirimenting with hover technology, then
they started testing the earths magnetic field for weaknesses that
they could perhaps tamper with. The first prototype of these objects
came out during the war world II. We joined forces with the canadian
government and formed the hover objects only. Unfortunately only 8
people in the entirety of the usa knew of these objects. 50 years ago,
in Roswell, New Mexico, they accidentally crash landed one of these
objects, taking out approximately 40 trees and magnitizing everything
in thier paths. Now they have bombs that cool this gas down to
absolute zero, then allow the molecules to move again, causing an
energy surge, pulling everything metal to the ground, and also
electricuting and killing all life, leaving the land livable, only
killing everything. they have satalites that use x-rays, and can read
license plates. Please leave this country, it is very dangerous,
President Jackson knew that, but he found out too late, they were the
ones to kill him, not any one else, he was just looking out his window
when government agents came in, threw the gun in his hands, and framed
him!! Run, they consider citizens expendable, I warn you
run!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Jackson? President Andrew Jackson (1825-1829)?
See: http://www.whitehouse.gov/WH/glimpse/presidents/html/aj7.html
-- GC]

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MCCARRAN AIR FORCE BASE

To: Webmaster@Ufomind.com
Date: Thu, 8 Jan 1998 17:40:08 -0500
Subject: Area 51 anyone?
From: [withheld]

Alright, your newer junior has been scouting for some news on our
favorite Area 51.  Here is some info, I know some wont help at all,
but at least I'm trying.    Take Highway 351 AKA: "Extraterrestrial
Highway."  Follow a ten mile dirt road, then you will see signs and
other things stating that there should be no trespassing beyond so
far.  Some where around there is a place called Tikaboo Peak.  It's
about 7,000 feet above "Dream Land."     Some other things about Area
51 are the flights carrying the personnel.  McCarran Air Force Base in
Las Vegas, will transport all of the workers at Area 51.  However,
McCarran denies having any connection with any flights to... well, I
guess, anywhere. They also wont say whether or not it's government
owned. Finally, for anyone who hasn't seen the Discovery Channel's
special, U.F.O.'s, I saw an add to get it on video tape.  I don't know
if it would be worth the price, but any hard core Alien lover should
call 1-800-615-4949 and get the UFO's special.  But it is about
$40.00! P.S. (before the signature) can I have some more E-Mail
address' of people?  I want to know everybody who is interested in
UFO's, Aliens, and Area 51!!!!!!  Talk to you later, GEC

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SATAN IS BEHIND IT ALL

From: "Thinker" <thinker@mweb.co.za>
To: <webmaster@ufomind.com>
Subject: Satan is behind it all
Date: Tue, 30 Dec 1997 00:37:23 +0200

Hi there. Writing to you from South Africa. Just thought I could ask
you a question. In the circles I've been moving lately, I've been led
to believe that all unexplained paranormal phenomena are explained
simply by the explanation that Satan is behind it all in order to
confuse us all. It is possible.

Thankyou.

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SEEKING ROOSEVELT'S INCIDENT OF 1947

Date: Mon, 26 Jan 1998 19:20:39 -0500 (EST)
Subject: Roosvelt' s Incident
From: "m.fantini@areacom.it" <a.bergesio@areacom.it>
To: Area 51 Mailing list

I' m inscribed in this mailing list, as a reader because I' m
Italian and so I don' t know well the place and the "secrets" of the
Area 51. Yet I'm very interested in UFO and the problem aroud them,
probably because I study biology in Italy and so I' m interested in
possible extraterrain life' s forms.

Now I' ll have the opportunity to being present with a request that
hope not very "fat".

I would have any informations and documentations about Roosvelt' s
Incident of 1947 (I think probably !), specially if there are among
you people that can know best of others the truth because they worked
for U.S. Army, or were closely connected to it or to important
people.

I have seen in Italy the film about the alien' s operation, but many
peolpe for example say that is false. Many others think that there
were some militar and political problems behind this incident; an
example: someone say that it was created to cover a new American spy
jet to the ex Sovietic Union, but others think that the alien was
true and that it' s present still today in any secret base.

In conclusion, I know the principal ideas and  problems around this
incident, but I would know, if possible, something of more concrete,
of more certain about it, also if think the truth probably will not
never revealed !!!

P.S.  I'm sorry for my English, I never has been in U.S.A. !!

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