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Report on Expedition to Tian Shan

From: Francisco Lopez <d005734c@dc.seflin.org>
Date: Tue, 29 Sep 1998 23:05:22 -0800

[Moderator Note: This message is posted for its interesting use of
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Via: Anatoly Kutovoy <kutovoj@MAIL.IAE.LT>
Via: CURRENT-ENCOUNTERS@LISTSERV.AOL.COM

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Subject:          EXPEDITION AT TIAN SHAN (LETTER 2 - REPORT)
Date:             7 Sep 1998 12:19:00 + 0400
From:             Nikolay.Subbotin@psu.ru
Organization: Deja News - The Leader in Internet Discussion
Newsgroups:  fido7.ru.ufo

Hi All,

The expedition has completed, it is necessary to summarize. I. FACTS

1. To confirm a existence of required object on the place was failed,
which Emil Bachurin has identified as authentic. To find the apparent
anomalies was failed, such as the trail of sliding, tracks of squeeze (it
must remain, as a surface of the platform consists of softlimber clay),
traces of explosion. To find a magnetic anomaly was failed - a compass,
and devices of a helicopter acted perfectly quietly, except for a single
jump of altimeter, which is explained by sharp differences of heights.

2. To look on psychological state of mind of Emil Bachurin at the place of
suppositional UFO's accident, he really witnessed something unusual,
because under landing has seen a proper shock, not finding out the object
on a place. All rest of time before returning it seems he was very
depressed and contemplative.

3. The presence of Shaitan Mazar (the name is not geographical) was
confirmed. A village of shepherds (Shaitan Mazar) is approximately 10 kms
from the site. Periodically a local mullah is engaged by curing of people
there, because there is a sacred spring nearby. One shepherd, which was
met on a way to an airdrome, had told us in detail about this place.

4. To find out an alternative route of Svechkov's expedition was possibly,
which without any special handicapes enables to drive directly to Shaitan
Mazar and therefrom already to go on foot by mountains.

5. To find the Svechkov's son was possible, which Emil Bachurin and Alexey
Kostenko conversed about 15 minutes with. The son has confirmed a fact of
similar expedition and even has given suggestion on one yet participator,
which after expedition became slightly batty. He refused to give
coordinates of Svechkov, refering he lives at suburb, and he remembers the
road only visually as many drivers. He has left a feeling as a person is
slightly frightened and very wary. Unfortunately, despite the persevering
desire of Emil Bachurin to organize a meeting with Svechkov, Anton Bogatov
(business manager of expedition) rejected this decision. Nevertheless the
Svechkov's son hinted, that his father in that season had carried out two
expeditions in different sites, that is not excluding the presence of one
yet "anomaly".

6. It was failed to confirm the presence of object and anomaly in that
area neither now nor earlier from conversations with pilots and
frontier-guards.

II. GUESSES

1. The expedition was attending by a number of stranges, which not only
slowed down, but also complicated the prospecting and discovery of better
qualitative results. Surely they might be explained quite naturally.

2. On the place of presumed UFO's accident by us (me and Oleg Murashev)
was found, photographed and vidofilmed a strange footprints reminding
three-fingers foot - it simply should be not unnoticeable (presupposition
-???). Full demagnetization of my credit cards - Cirrus Maestro is
completely damaged, Visa is readable one from 10-15 times (presupposition
- an influence of metall-detectors on magnetic cards at the airport?). An
inexplicable linear track has found on a place of suppositional UFO's
accident, seen only from a helicopter (presupposition - old pathway?
precipitation scavenging?), the track leaves an impression of 100 %
artificial, it is too much linear. A breakage of a camera on the place of
presumed UFO's accident and a failure of photoflare (presupposition -
everything breaks, that would be failed <g>).

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