Date: Jan, 05 1996, 17:00 EDT From: shale@ee.net (Scott K. Hale) Subj: Well.. now that your mailbox if FULL this is the LAST one.. To: PsychoSpy From billy@anasaz (Bill Moore) Tue Feb 11 15:20:17 1992 Path: aramis.rutgers.edu!paul.rutgers.edu!dorm.rutgers.edu!rutgers! ukma!asuvax!anasaz!qip!billy From: billy@anasaz (Bill Moore) Newsgroups: alt.alien.visitors Subject: Re: Grey Aliens sighted .... again Message-ID: <1992Feb11.202017.2352@anasaz> Date: 11 Feb 92 20:20:17 GMT References: <108652.29961E85@paranet.FIDONET.ORG> <1992Feb10.183334.24034@sun.pcl.ac.uk> <1992Feb11.041107.4504@msuinfo.cl.msu.edu> Organization: Anasazi, Inc. Phoenix, Az Lines: 45 In article <1992Feb11.041107.4504@msuinfo.cl.msu.edu> grimm@eecae.ee.msu.edu (Jerry Michael Grimm) writes: ->>I read that document last year.....some of it sounded quite scary(if it's true) ->>Is there anybody out there who can answer any of these questions : -> I posted some Cooper research a few weeks ago in response to someone ele's query but here's a summary: Cooper's claim that he was a "Naval Intelligence Officer" with access to top secret UFO material has been discredited. In fact, he was an enl isted man, not an officer, discharged in 1975 after serving for about 3 years as quartermaster for an intelligence briefing team. The highest rank he achieved in all his 14 years in the Navy was QM1, pay-grade E6, hardly a level that would have access to the top secret information he reports. ->>Is this cooper document authentic? In the sense that Cooper posted it on BBSs around the country, yes. But it's clear he made it all up. ->>Also what has happened to him for the past two years? He was on a radio program about two years ago in Las Vegas and ran into a buzz saw. He was so thoroughly discredited by a knowlegeable UFO researcher that he simply faded away. ->>Has he any plans to do any seminar's in Europe? I'm sure if you pay his expenses and anything over $2.00 an hour he'd be glad for the attention. ->>Has anybody purchased the JFK video from bill cooper? There is no such thing. Cooper's "JFK Video" is a snippent from the Zapruder film. Besides, the JFK/UFO conspiracy is John Lear's thing, not Cooper's. ->>Is there any FTP sites where I can grab more info on this subject? -> ->>Any help would be much appreciated. -> Check out "Alien Harvest" by Linda Moulton Howe. She includes an appendix with both the original and revised Cooper postings. 0>Is this the same Bill Cooper who says that JFK's driver did the killing? ->That Bill Cooper? Again, that's John Lear's thing. -> --- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Bill Moore billy%anasaz.UUCP@asuvax.eas.asu.edu (602) 395-1732 - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - From jms@vanth.UUCP (Jim Shaffer) Tue Feb 11 23:45:38 1992 Path: aramis.rutgers.edu!rutgers!cbmvax!vanth!jms From: jms@vanth.UUCP (Jim Shaffer) Newsgroups: alt.alien.visitors Subject: Re: Grey Aliens sighted .... again Message-ID: Date: 12 Feb 92 04:45:38 GMT References: <108652.29961E85@paranet.FIDONET.ORG> <1992Feb10.183334.24034@sun.pcl.ac.uk> Organization: The 'Jinky the Fruit Bat' Fan Club Lines: 34 In article <1992Feb10.183334.24034@sun.pcl.ac.uk> rilec@sun.pcl.ac.uk (Robin Shephard) writes: >Is this cooper document authentic? Funny you should say that. Recently, Bill Cooper said that all his Operation Majority files were fakes, written by someone else to discredit him. I don't buy that story. But for what it's worth, I think he's trying to get away from the aliens and concentrate on the One World Government -type conspiracy theories. He seemed to be moving in that direction even before he denounced his own files. >Also what has happened to him for the past two years? See above. Also, in case you didn't know, he has a history of enouncing anyone who questions him as a part of the conspiracy, and even threatening such people. This includes fellow UFOlogists and conspiracy theorists! (Not to mention the fact that he says he read the O. H. Krill file years ago, when in fact it was made up in 1988 by John Lear and John Grace.) >Has anybody purchased the JFK video from bill cooper? I wouldn't spend my money on it. >Is there any FTP sites where I can grab more info on this subject? I don't know about FTP, but if there's a ParaNet BBS in your area you could probably find all of his files, plus files about or by John Lear, Bill English, and Bob Lazar. -- * From the disk of: | jms@vanth.uucp | "They don't tell me Jim Shaffer, Jr. | uunet!cbmvax!vanth!jms | nothin', so I find 37 Brook Street | jms%vanth@cbmvax.commodore.com | out all I can." Montgomery, PA 17752 | 72750.2335@compuserve.com | (Phil Collins) From Michael.Corbin@p0.f428.n104.z1.FIDONET.ORG (Michael Corbin) Wed Feb 12 11:11:00 1992 Path:aramis.rutgers.edu!rutgers!noao!asuvax!cs.utexas.edu!hellgate.utah. edu!csn!scicom!paranet!p0.f428.n104.z1.FIDONET.ORG!Michael.Corbin From: Michael.Corbin@p0.f428.n104.z1.FIDONET.ORG (Michael Corbin) Newsgroups: alt.alien.visitors Subject: Re: Grey Aliens Sighted .... Again Message-ID: <109273.29995B1F@paranet.FIDONET.ORG> Date: 12 Feb 92 16:11:00 GMT Sender: ufgate@paranet.FIDONET.ORG (newsout1.26) Organization: FidoNet node 1:104/428.0 - >Is this cooper document authentic? > >Also what has happened to him for the past two years? > >Has he any plans to do any seminar's in Europe? > >Has anybody purchased the JFK video from bill cooper? > >Is there any FTP sites where I can grab more info on this subject? > > >Any help would be much appreciated. > > Is this the same Bill Cooper who says that JFK's driver did the > killing? > That Bill Cooper? > > Don Allen, Mike Corbin -- any comments? First, I don't want to get into any protracted discussions about Bill Cooper. All I can say is that we, ParaNet, had a great deal of experience with Bill Cooper, up to and including ejecting him from the net for causing a variety of disruptions, not to mention strong attacks on other members of the net that were counter-productive to intelligent discussion. Our organization has investigated Cooper to the max and can find no truth in anything he says except that he was in the Navy, but not in the capacity that he claims. Further, the tape of the JFK driver has obviously been altered. I have a copy of that tape and I have no doubt in my mind that someone has edited it to make it look like the driver. The bottom line is that Bill Cooper just doesn't hold water, so anything he says should be taken with a large block of salt and tongue planted firmly in cheek. Mike -- Michael Corbin - via ParaNet node 1:104/422 UUCP: !scicom!paranet!User_Name INTERNET: Michael.Corbin@p0.f428.n104.z1.FIDONET.ORG ----------------------- Headers -------------------------------- From shale@ee.net Thu Jan 4 19:48:45 1996 Return-Path: shale@ee.net Received: from mail.ee.net (mail.ee.net [206.31.38.3]) by emin10.mail.aol.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) with ESMTP id TAA21706 for ; Thu, 4 Jan 1996 19:48:42 -0500 Received: from port147.ee.net (port147.ee.net [205.133.101.147]) by mail.ee.net (8.6.11/8.6.9) with SMTP id TAA17174 for ; Thu, 4 Jan 1996 19:48:42 -0500 Received: by port147.ee.net with Microsoft Mail id <01B89D39.09FC1220@port147.ee.net>; Tue, 4 Jan 1994 19:36:45 -0800 Message-ID: <01B89D39.09FC1220@port147.ee.net> From: "Scott K. Hale" To: "'Glenn Campbell'" Subject: Well.. now that your mailbox if FULL this is the LAST one.. 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