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UFO Researchers & Groups in
Hungary
Assembled by Glenn Campbell
<campbell@ufomind.com>
NOTE:
This page is no longer maintained. Some information
may be out of date.
Information as of 1996.
"Hungarians are aliens," goes an anecdote that once circulated at
Los Alamos Laboratories in New Mexico. Indeed, a similar
quote appears at the top of
the
Hungarian government's introductory page.
It happens that a disproportionate number of scientists on U.S. atomic
bomb programs were Hungarian, include Teller, Szilard and Von Neumann.
The "Hungarians are aliens" anecdote has appeared in many forms,
and it is unclear where it came from,
but real Hungarians were in high enough positions in the U.S.
government that they would know about any official
government information on UFOs.
The recurring Hungarian thread in U.S. UFO stories
prompted me to visit Hungary
in Nov. 1995 to try to understand the local UFO subculture there.
I found nothing too unusual, but my own "alienness" in this
environment was very educational.
Although separated by thousands of miles, Hungary's
UFO subculture seemed very similar to that in the U.S.,
and I gained many insights -- into human nature at least --
that were useful when I returned home.
Hungary is culturally and linguistically different from the rest of
Europe, which might account in part for its association with aliens.
The Hungarian language is related to no others in European except
Finnish, which is also an odd anomaly.
The origins of Hungarian culture seem to lie far to the east. Magyars
first arrived in what is now Hungary around 800 AD, but where the
tribe originated is a matter of dispute.
Hungarians today are very interested in UFOs and mystical topics.
Their UFO subculture resembles a smaller version of that in the
US, with a lot of people seeing objects in the sky
and making fantastic claims but few conducting organized
research. Local commerce in books, magazines and videos
on UFO topics is going
strong following the fall of Communism.
Even the Hungarian Defense Minister has had a private interest in
UFOs.
Hungarian Ufologists
Here is a partial list of UFO researchers, lecturers and businessmen,
in alphabetical order.
Notes and opinions by Glenn Campbell, based on Nov. 95 visit to Hungary.
In Hungary, family names come first. The approximate English is given in
parentheses (although I am not sure which they would prefer).
Most of these researchers do no speak English.
- Beck Mihály. Currently the reigning skeptic
in Hungary. Chemist. Member of the Hungarian Academy
- Egely György -- A para-physicist,
apparently a follower of the ideas of Nikola Tesla. Once a respected
physicist but now shunned by the Hungarian scientific community for
his unorthodox ideas. He is interested in energy fields around people.
He is interested in the energy fields around people. I am told he
is well known as a "light-ball" (ball lightning?) researcher, with
a large library of cases. Address:
Budakeszi, Pf. 38
While in Hungary, I purchased an "Egely
Wheel," which is a palm size electronic device designed
by Egely to measure a person's
"vitalic energy." A three-inch wheel on the top of the device spins
with no apparent outside force. I never did figure it out.
- Farkas Bertalan
-- The first (and only?) Hungarian in space,
joining a Russian mission in 1980. Neutral on UFOs.
- György Keleti -- Hungary's Defense Minister.
Wrote an article in Ufómagazin prior to joining
the government. Political flak has
apparently caused him to keep quiet about
any UFO interests.
- Hargitai Károly, Budapest
-- The best known ufologist within the country. He is the first person
the local TV stations go to talk about UFOs, and he has written about
a dozen UFO books. Tends toward New Age explanations for phenomena,
and believes he has been visited by spiritual beings. A former English
teacher, his English is excellent. Formerly worked for UNESCO.
- Keviczky Kálmán
-- Hungary's best known ufologist to the outside world. He has been
living in New York for years. He was once a bureaucrat for the United
Nations, where he made a stir about UFOs around the 1960s.
(I'm still seeking the details.)
- Kisfaludy György, Budapest
-- A populist prophet, not given much credibility by more mainstream
ufologists.
- Kiss Lázló -- Longtime
UFO field
investigator
in Debrecen. I saw a lengthy report by him in Ufómagazin.
There is also supposed to be a report by him in UFO Universe
(US?), 1989 Winter: 'UFO's behind the Iron Curtain'.
- Mandics György
-- Mentioned to me as a prominent
"Hungarian" ufologist, although he lives in Romania. (Many ethnic
Hungarians live outside the country following the partitioning of
Hungary after the First World War.)
- Foldes Attila - Author of UFO books, include (rough English
translation) "UFO engines?" and "The message of Mars".
- Nemere István -- Science Fiction
Writer, author of at least 100 books.
Topics include sci-fi, adventure and ufology. Address: Esztergom, Pf.152
- Pusztay Sándor -- Editor
and publisher of Hungary's largest and oldest UFO magazine, Ufómagazin,
which resembles UFO Universe in the U.S. He is a businessman
and publisher employing about a dozen people in Budapest and several
others in Slovokia, where the magazine publishes a local edition.
Circulation for Ufómagazin (as I recall) is
about 30,000 in Hungary and about half that in Slovakia. Although
small by western standards, it can be considered a capitalist success
story in Hungary. Offices are on the ground floor of an apartment
complex along the Danube. The magazine's principal competitor is
Szines UFO ("Color UFO") magazine, with a circulation of about 20,000.
Both magazines organize lectures and conferences and sell books and
video tapes that are frequently translations of English or German
originals (with a tendency toward the sensational). Ufómagazin
is the distributor for the "Roswell Alien Autopsy" film, and when
I was there, Pusztay was lecturing on it. Pusztay speaks no English,
but some family members do, and at least one staff member reads English.
Address: Ufómagazin, Nepfurdo u. 15/c, H-1138 Budapest.
- Sós Tibor -- Filmmaker, produced three video tapes
on Third-Kind UFO Encounters.
- Dr. Szilágyi Mária -- Hypnotherapist,
psychologist, focussING on alien abduction. Budapest.
- Szentágothay János
-- Once Hungary's
leading skeptic,
president of the Hungarian Academy in the '80s, now deceased.
- Szucs Robert --
Editor of Szines UFO magazine
- Tarcali Gábor, Debrecen -- President of Union
of Hungarian UFO Societies and leader of a UFO assocation: HUFON.
- Tassi Támás, Budapest.
Head of a small UFO group in Buda.
He says he is mainly concerned with modern physics, astronomy and
cosmology, as well technical questions
of about saucer propulsion. He is a follower of Hal Puthoff's zero-point
energy theories. Speaks some English. Employed as a mechanical engineer.
Budapest.
- Tesla, Nikola -- Although Serbo-Croatian, worked in Hungary
in 1881-82 before coming to America.
- Tölgyesi Zoltán --
Contributor to
Szines UFO magazine,
maintains their web site. Said to be fluent in English.
English translations
of some of the ufologists' names above.
UFO Groups in Hungary
I am told that there are some 50 UFO groups in Hungary, most of
them not very sophisticated. English is rarely spoken or read by
members, so these groups are difficult for outsiders to contact.
Here are some of the largest groups in Budapest and nationally.
- UFOCO -- UFO Club of Obuda, about 40 members. Leader: Tassi
Tamas. Address: XIII. Kerekes u. 4/A, Budapest
- BUFOE -- UFO Organization of Budapest, about 200 members.
Leader Fórset Kiss. Address: IX. Szent István
tér
7, Budapest
- HUFOV -- Hungarian UFO Researchers, about 20 members. Leader:
Borbiró Mihály.
- HUFON -- Association of Hungarian UFO Researchers. An
umbrella organization for Hungarian UFO groups. Leaders: Torcali Gábor
and Kiss Lázló. Address: Pf.
160, Debrecen.
- UFO Controll -- Leader: Soos Tibor, Address: Pf. 6,
Szeged-Szoreg.
- Szegedi UFO Klub -- Leader: Gombosne, Sz. Emillia. Address:
Szeged, Melinda
u. 12.
- Nyiregyhazi UFO Klub -- Leader: Balla Lázló,
Address:
Nyiregyhaza, Pf. 25
- KUFOA -- Leader: Viszkok Andras, Address: Kondoros, Pf.57
- "The Commission" or "Robottechnika" --
Apparently a group of about seven
PhD scientists
interested in plasma
balls and antigravity
theory.
Group appears to conduct active field research into "special
light phenomena". (See web site above.)
Hungarian Connections to a U.S. Government UFO Cover-Up
Documents on this Server Concerning Hungarian-UFO Connections
- Relevance
- A retired U.S. mechanical engineer
claims that he worked on a U.S. goverment program to reproduce alien
craft. He says that some of the documents he worked with we written
in a "higher form of Hungarian."
- Articles
- Los Alamos National Laboratories
- Hungarian Edward Teller and other discussed the possibility of
life on other planets at lunch around 1950. Report
- Hungarian-Born Atomic Scientists
- Edward Teller
- John von Neuman
- Leo Szilard*.
Born: Budapest, 1898.
- Famous Hungarians in Technical Fields
Note: The page above is not actively maintained except to fix broken links and correct
errors.
Information is current as of 1995 and 1996 and may be out of date.
A more thorough page can only be based in Hungary. --GC
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You should not translate Hungarian names (in the list of
persons) into English! This is absolutely unnecessary and
extremely ridiculous.
- I find it odd, too. I have encountered this circumstance on several occasions:
Hungarians who tell me they have two names: A Hungarian one and an English one.
I have not seen this anywhere else in the world and I assumed it was a
Hungarian custom. One acquaintance of mine in Hungary wants to be known only
by his English name, which may make a person seem more "international".
When we assembled the list of ufologists, it was with the translations,
and I assumed it was common. It is certainly useful, as it makes the names less
intimidating to an English speaker. I have no idea what is 'politically correct.'
I will remove the translations if other Hungarians think it is rediculous.
-- Glenn
1/15/96: Translations moved to a separate page.
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I have a BBS (Bulletin Board System) called BITLAND. The phone No. is
(#361)270-2964, opened from 6 pm. to 9 am., we 24h. I collected around
3-400 files/photos/docs about UFOs and rel. data. This one of the biggest
database in Hungary about the subject. Mainly from IN, and Hungary.
All interested are wellcome, will have level after reg. Bye, thx.
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Unfortunately, this is vague and sketchy peice of info at best, but
I visited a place in Florida called "coral castles" the guy who built
it was hungarian. The stories on television do not do this place
justice the construction is well documented, he apparently moved
giant blocks of coral by himself and then, loaded it all onto a truck
and moved it again. some of the constructs had minor astronomical
functions and he wrote a lot about magnetism and such, however i do
not remember his name. there is an episode of "in search of" about him.
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