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From: "Scott K. Hale" <shale@megalinx.net>
Date: Sun, 11 Dec 1994 17:39:13 -0500
Fwd Date: Thu, 12 Dec 1996 03:20:15 -0500
Subject: Re: MJ-12 and Area 51

> That is unadulterated poppycock! Before information
> becomes classified, it is is the public domain and out
> there. What we call Area 51 was at one time desert of no
> use or value to anyone except to the owners of the Groom Mine
> and it wasn't until 1958 that the
> public was denied access to enter the area. That is a fact
> in the public domain. The air space above it was restricted
> before 1958 dating back to the construction of the facilities
> for the U-2 program in 1955. That is a fact and in the public domain.
> Released information on Area 51 shows conclusively that the
> area called Area 51 relates specifically to the co-ordinates of
> the public land seized in 1958. The first known usage of the term
> area 51 was 1960. What we don't know about Area 51
> is what post dates the U-2 program, not before. Real people worked
> and lived there and even had photographic coverage of the area in the
> NATIONAL GEOGRAPHIC.
>
> > Proclamations are not the same as evidence.
> > Stan Friedman
>
> Then provide evidence to support any of your claims related to MJ-12?
> There is zero, zip, nada, zilch in your new book that establishes
> any linkage to MJ-12 as a real program. You are the expert on
> proclamations. Show me that I am wrong by presenting any iota of
> evidence or linkage to support the proclamation that MJ-12 is a real
> program or organization worthy of further inquiry.
>
> Ed Stewart

Ed,

    Please stop the name calling, it makes you look childish. Yes, there
is plenty of information on the Groom Lake area, even pictures. There is
also undoubtedly lots of classified information on the base at Groom
Lake. Even if those files SHOULD be public domain, I doubt they are
going to happily hand them over thus fueling further rumors/theories.
Ask yourself this: If MJ-12 exists or existed, do you think they'd just
let some REAL evidence lay around in NARA? If the Lazar story was
real,(I don't think it is) and you wanted your secret kept, wouldn't you
discredit him? Sometimes to make headway it's almost best to think
backwards, become what you're chasing after.

Regards,
Scott K. Hale