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From: "Clark Hathaway" <earthwrk@cyberport.com>
Date: Wed, 11 Dec 1996 02:32:03 -0700
Fwd Date: Thu, 12 Dec 1996 03:22:31 -0500
Subject: Re: 'The Most Authentic Alien Image Ever'
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> From: UFO UpDates - Toronto <updates@globalserve.net>
> To: updates@globalserve.net
> Subject: UFO UpDate: Re: 'The Most Authentic Alien Image Ever'
> Date: Tuesday, December 10, 1996 11:51 PM
> Date: Tue, 10 Dec 1996 12:40:45 -0500
> From: "Steven J. Powell" <sjpowell@access.digex.net>
> To: UFO UpDates - Toronto <updates@globalserve.net>
> Subject: Re: UFO UpDate: Re: 'The Most Authentic Alien Image Ever'
> References: <2.2.32.19961210073724.00c3b12c@globalserve.net>
> > From: jvif@spacelab.net (John Velez)
> > Subject: Re: UFO UpDate: Re: 'The Most Authentic Alien Image
Ever'
In which Steven (John Powell) stated:
> I've edited your response down to some essentials...
> > Have YOU ever been party to an abortion. Do you find my
question
> > offensive? Or maybe invasive of a persons right to privacy?
Asking
> > people if they've had abortions is tasteless. [snip]
> > And using Whitley and his son as an example is unexcusable
and just
> > downright rude. I have kids Dennis, do you? Never question
a mans
> I think we have here the essence of the abductee-as-object
versus the
> abductee-as-subject problem.
> We _don't_ know that so-called alien abductions are real, or
have ever
> actually happenned. That statement is necessarily based on
the current
For Steven (John) Powell as well as John Velez:
As you know, I believe that in August of 1990, I underwent an
extremely strange experience.
In order to sort out what I was undergoing (inexplicable
terror), I sought the help offered.
The outcome of that subsequent experience (hypno-regression)
labeled me in current terminology an abductee or experiencer. As
an abductee (experiencer) I feel that in order to progress in
this line of research, perhaps a new attitude of Objectivity in
this line of research is called for. Up to this date I have not
seen ANY such objectivity from ANY researcher in this line of
inquiry. All of the so-called researchers into this fascinating
problem are biased one way or another. This can also be stated
somewhat of those who are in constant debate over this issue. I
find this unfortunate as well as appalling.
Now, I will repeat that I went through at least one extremely
strange experience. I quite possibly have gone through
additional similar experiences as well, I have good reason to
suspect that this is so. I also have reason to suspect that
various episodes that came forth during my hypno-regression
are/were not real, but a cover for something else. Mainly, my
reasons are based upon deep intuition. I feel very strongly
based upon my own experience(s) that John Velez truly believes
that he has experienced something basically similar to mine.
Having read "Communion" and "Transformation", it is clear to me
that something similar has happened to Whitley as well.
That there are many, many others that I do not know of can also
be stated.
Having read both of these gentlemen's words within this forum, I
do not for a second believe that they are insane or subject to
periodic episodes of delusion or hallucination. I feel that this
type of suggestion is just another way of sticking one's head in
the sand and attempting to ignore the problem ... and, make no
mistake about it, we do have a problem. It is VERY REAL whatever
is behind it. It is about time that a VERY REAL OBJECTIVE STUDY
be made of it without all of the demeaning rhetoric and
depersonalization.
I do not know if my experience is truly indicative of a genuine
encounter with what could be best described as an Alien from
another world. My memories would seem to indicate this, but
again I have my reservations. My metaphysical studies suggest
that in fact the experience involves something quite different
and in most respects even more strange than the concept of
beings from across the galaxy or even another dimensional
existence. My post hypnotic experiences and Julie's as well,
would seem to reflect some of the implied characteristics of the
denizens described in the referred to works. Throughout history
at various times certain of these beings have made an appearance
only to disappear back into the woodwork. They are capable of
taking on diverse appearance as suits their desire. In past
history, they are what gave rise to the legends of demons and
devils.
If one looks at the problem in an objective way, it is quickly
ascertained that in an overwhelming amount of these cases, there
is a high incidence of paranormal phenomena. I believe this fact
to be extremely significant. Yet except for the few, I feel that
this nearly universal fact has been all but ignored. I have an
intuitive feeling that this could be exceedingly dangerous. Just
as it is dangerous to presuppose that these are beings come from
across the galaxy on a mission of benevolent brotherhood when
the majority of the possible evidence would seem to indicate
otherwise.
I believe strongly that nothing in this reality happens without
reason. I do not for a second believe that we are a fluke, a
mistake or even an accident. I believe and feel to the core of
my being that what is occurring is occurring for a reason.
Likewise, I feel that now as never before, an objective and
honest study of this phenomena is called for. Our future may
just depend upon it.
Kindest Regards,
Clark Hathaway
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