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From: Alfred Lehmberg <Lehmberg@snowhill.com>
Date: Fri, 13 Dec 1996 07:09:05 -0600
Fwd Date: Sat, 14 Dec 1996 01:36:52 -0500
Subject: Re: Moulton Howe

> > > For those following Hale-Bopp, this may be of interest.
> > > !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
> > [snip]
> > > There you have the establishment astronomers' statement on this issue.
>
> > And that is exactly _all_ it was, remembering the broad assumptions
> > _they_ made with regard to an _expected_ world view: that physics is
> > understood, and there are no surprises left in a universe we cannot even
> > see the end of . . .human arrogance can be more stupefying than its
>
> > ignorance. Moreover, it matters not so much whether Hale-Bopp even _has_
> ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>
> Huh? You mean, you don't care that this whole thing has been a >travesty
> promoted to guillible UFO buffs?

Not when I remember that it is the haughty arrogance of attitudes such
as you display here that is the instrument of their gullibility -- no, I
don't care. _Look_ how _you_ label the mass of us as idiotic . . . Or,
you meant "gullible buff" in a _good_ way. . . Besides, I don't _know_
(SAME as you) that what's promoted _is_ a travesty. My mind is still
open, as should be yours.

>
> Or, probably what you really mean is that it doesn't *matter* that
> there isn't really a companion object, because buffs will believe
> whatever they want and continue hyping stuff because of Millenial
> Fever.

No, just what we are *compelled* to believe in a country that has a
thirty billion dollar black budget, where a former governor of a state
can publicly shake the hand of a bigoted murderer, or where streets,
boulevards, and monumental buildings can be named after vicious
sociopaths like J. Edgar Hoover. In your world the crusades were a noble
enterprise, our education system is an unfettered reach towards light,
and Nixon told the truth. In your world NASA scientists don't rip off
the work of earlier researchers, like they did in _my_ world regarding
the Mars rock.

Further, I am saying that paradigms have been shattered before, and all
the misery seemed to come from those that had the most artificial
position to lose. I don't resent your questions on the issue of a
companion for Hale-Bopp, I resent the smirk that drips from your
disdaining educated expressions, expressions that you do not admit are
couched in certain assumptions (with regard to density, IR, and
gravitational acceleration et al) that may not apply in this very
singular first time experience. May not -- perhaps -- possibly --
perchance.

It may be that Aristotle's crystal spheres are to be smashed again --
will your *educated priesthood* thrash, argue, prevaricate, and
otherwise cloud and complicate the issue, as they have done in times
past? On that we can count! You say No? Ha! _There_ is your arrogance!

>
> > a companion -- it is our corrosive reaction to its mere *suggestion*
> > that really chaps _my_ ass.
>
> If a strong determination to present the truth and correct
> misrepresented facts or errors is a "corrrosive reaction", then so be
> it.

Uh huh -- Grand proclamation, you stretch the presence of "presented
truths", and "corrected fact" a little thinly over the evidence of
photographs of a *terrific* comet, BY FAR AND AWAY more interesting than
any of the last comets (ANY of them), that is ignored like the last
comets NEVER WERE! You don't find that ODD?

>
> As for your ass, I'd suggest some Johnson's Lotion.

Ha! (slapping knee)Good one! But Alas! Even the touch of your healing
lips to my irritation would be as lemon juice to a paper cut.

I'm not a believer, but I _can_ believe. Does your bumbling late 20th
century scientific hubris burn that _out_ of you? Yeah! That's right --
bumbling! If not prey to the hubris I expose then we would already have
colonized the asteroid belt, and the DOW would be at 100 thousand.

Don't think that you are helping a rationalist scientific position; not
for a minute. Your proud and arrogant smirk does not encourage a
positive reception of your position. It only demonstrates how much fun
you have laughing at a bewildered (but intelligent) under educated that
has developed a sense of when a haughty elitist's hunting dog _might_ be
peeing on their foot.

. . .Can't wait to see what you do with the hunting dog allusion . . .

			Lehmberg@snowhill.com