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From: "Steven J. Powell" <sjpowell@access.digex.net>
Date: Sun, 15 Dec 1996 10:56:49 -0500
Fwd Date: Mon, 16 Dec 1996 14:31:46 -0500
Subject: Re: 'The Most Authentic Alien Image Ever'

> From: Vince_Johnson_at_TENSOR__HSTN@ccmailsmtp.hstn.expl.pgs.com
> Subject: Re: UFO UpDate: Re: 'The Most Authentic Alien Image Ever'

> John Powell wrote:

> >I think it would be an interesting idea to have all abductees perform
> >an IdentiKit.  Such a process would be close to singularly objective.

>      I personally don't think uniformity of entity descriptions by
>      abductees necessarily proves anything.

I don't think it _proves_ anything either.

>      For instance, if a random group of people were asked to use an
>      Identikit to create a likeness of Santa Claus (in the holiday
>      spirit), I suspect that there would be a fairly high degree of
>      uniformity in the results -- even though there is no single
>      "accurate" portrait of this imaginary character.

Imaginary!?!?!?! <grin>

Millions and millions of people, generation after generation,
multi-cultiral and multi-national, have stories of Santa.  Are you
unmoved by the enormity of that mass of anecdotal evidence!!!!????

And what about the presents, hmmmmm????  While its true that this
alleged creature called "Santa" is nowhere to be found the physical
evidence, (various presents labeled as being "From: Santa"), is
everywhere (not unlke the stories and photographs of alleged physical
markings).

I simply cannot believe that you would mock Santa in this way!

Greg, I think you'd better have a talk with Vince!

>      Since there is such undeniable cultural consciousness of the
>      archetypal "gray" aliens (based on publicized abductee
>      descriptions), I suspect that any random group of
>      Identikit-equipped test subjects asked to provide a picture of
>      what aliens look like would undoubtedly provide a fairly uniform
>      portrait of the classic "gray" aliens.

I suspect that is what would happen.  Dennis mentioned this in a
previous message to Greg, that it is not possible to find people who
don't have that general image in their mind.  This makes using an image,
even a police IdendtKit image, as a witness test

>      In short, cultural contamination of abduction lore through
>      widespread media exposure has rendered uniform entity
>      descriptions by self-proclaimed abductees useless as evidence for
>      the phenomenon.

Yes, I'm afraid that's a perfectly accurate statement.

One of the sub-themes going on during an IdentiKit session is that the
victim is being observed during the process.  The process of making and
changing picture elements is observed.  Sometimes this process is
witnessed by a detective, sometimes its recorded.  The process itself,
if there are no prejudices involved or leading questions, can be a great
help to the victim in remembering details.  I prefer this to hypnosis
any day.

--

Thanks, take care.
John.

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