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From: James Easton <100626.2242@compuserve.com>
Date: Tue, 17 Dec 1996 18:22:17 -0500
Fwd Date: Wed, 18 Dec 1996 01:07:55 -0500
Subject: Re: Genesis and Provenance

Regarding...

>Date: 16 Dec 96 19:26:26 EST
>From: Theresa <70571.1735@CompuServe.COM>
>Subject: Re: UFO UpDate: Re: Genesis and Provenance

Theresa Carlson wrote to James Diss:

>Something else along this line, when I contacted Kodak their spokesman
said they could do the testing but that it would be very costly.  There was
no mention of them doing it for free. If someone has a contact at Kodak
that says they will do it for free, they need to get that in writing and
submit it to Santilli.<


Theresa,

It was Bob Shell who had arranged with Kodak that they would test the film
for free.

On 5 June, this year, Bob reiterated that, "they have agreed to test film
for me at no charge provided that it meets their criteria".

That criteria had previously been set out by Bob:

"Kodak ...want to see a strip at least 50 frames in length so they can do
some sprocket spacing measurements.

"Spacing of sprocket holes was changed around 1960 when new equipment was
installed, and Kodak can easily determine whether the film was made before
or after this equipment change if given a long enough strip.

Kodak also needs to see a strip which is intact from edge to edge, since
this is an important measurement to determine film shrinkage.  Film shrinks
as it ages.

Kodak also wants to perform chemical tests on a piece of film which can be
firmly established to be from the same film on which the alien appears.

[...]

Kodak wants Ray or an agent of his to come to Rochester and bring one
entire roll of the film.  They want to examine the roll, make a number of
physical measurements, and then, with the agent's approval, punch a small
hole from one frame for testing.  This does not have to come from a frame
with the alien in it so long as it comes from an unbroken strip on which
the alien appears.  The physical measurements coupled with chemical tests
will provide an absolute dating for the film.

Ray Santilli is aware of all of this, and has been for some time".


That was over a year ago.


The comments James Diss was alluding to are I believe the following, from
the CompuServe MUFON forum conference on 24 March, 1996:

"Yes there are further plans with regard to the verification of the film
and this will hopefully be done at the time of the cameramans interview
However we will NOT be going to KODAK.

[...]

With all due respect to KODAK I simply do not trust an American corporation
with lucrative defence contracts".


I wonder when Ray told Bob Shell that there was no intention to submit any
film to Kodak. Presumably this must have been after Bob had made all of the
arrangements and had spent almost a year being patiently optimistic this
would take place.

This is of course assuming Bob does know. Maybe he doesn't; I'll ask if he
would like to make a statement on this and a couple of other points.


>I doubt any independent lab would do it for free either but they may be
less expensive than Kodak.<

>From what Bob has previously said, only Kodak have the means to match the
chemistry of the sample against their records. That's one of the points
I'll raise with him.



James.
Internet; 100626.2242@compuserve.com