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From: "Clark Hathaway" <earthwrk@cyberport.com>
Date: Fri, 20 Dec 1996 16:15:33 -0700
Fwd Date: Sat, 21 Dec 1996 04:57:04 -0500
Subject: Re: 'The Most Authentic Alien Image Ever'



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> From: UFO UpDates - Toronto <updates@globalserve.net>
> To: updates@globalserve.net
> Subject: UFO UpDate: Re: 'The Most Authentic Alien Image Ever'
> Date: Friday, December 20, 1996 7:52 AM
>
> Date: Thu, 19 Dec 1996 06:16:21 -0500
> From: "Steven J. Powell" <sjpowell@access.digex.net>
> To: UFO UpDates - Toronto <updates@globalserve.net>
> Subject: Re: UFO UpDate: Re: 'The Most Authentic Alien Image
Ever'
> References: <2.2.32.19961216195138.007644e8@globalserve.net>
>
> > From: "Julianne Presson" <earthwrk@cyberport.com>
> > Subject: Re: UFO UpDate: Re: 'The Most Authentic Alien Image
Ever'
> >
> > Another question that comes to mind is how is therapy
> > administered to treat a problem for which there is no
precedent
> > within the mental health field?
>
> I think it would be possible to treat the symptoms or treat
the
> after-effects without having it previously established that
alien
> abductions are real.

There may be some inherent problems here to overcome. Let us use
my case as an example.
I was beset with flashes of imagery that made absolutely no
logical sense, John. The only possible explanation that came to
mind in trying to make some sense of what I was experiencing was
that I had witnessed some possible violent confrontation behind
my van across the meadow after going out to it to go to bed for
the night. However, that didn't explain the apparent approaching
'helicopter that made no noise' that preceded the vision of the
fuzzy, short people within the blinding blue/white light.
Moreover, it also didn't even begin to over any rationalization
for the inexplicable extreme emotional agitation that I was
experiencing in association with these flashes of memory. During
the three months between the onset of these flashes of memory
and my undergoing hypno-regression, it would be fair to state
that I was rapidly becoming an emotional basket case. These
circumstances were entirely intolerable considering my military
upbringing and certain training and opportunities that I was
afforded while in the military.

What I AM suggesting here is that in order to get to the bottom
line in this situation, hypno-regression was necessary. I
recognize however, that this would not necessarily be the case
in all instances. Many who are abducted seem to recall through
non-extraordinary means, a great deal of their experience. Some
are going to need this sort of tool in order to begin to get by
the fear.

> > > There's no reason why abductees can't be involved in the
> > > research/investigation but there are some otherwise
obvious
> > > groundrules associated with that.  It isn't a crime that
one or
> > > another person has difficulty separating themselves from
the
> > > phenomenon, I'd be surprised if that wasn't pretty much
always the
> > > case.
> > I was not referring to disassociating oneself from the
phenomena
> > John, but from the emotional content that came as a result
of
> > the experience. However, that is also another point. One who
has
> > had this type of experience and intends to enter into
> > research/investigation of abductions and UFOlogy, should
become
> > capable of laying aside any beliefs and/or assumptions that
came
> > about as a result of his/her experience in order to be
> > effective.
>
> Same thing as I was saying really.  Its much more difficult to
be an
> objective investigator if you are also a victim of that which
you are
> investigating.

Well, one needs to adopt an attitude of objectivity concerning
one's own perceived experience.
I'll repeat that in my case I accept that something exceedingly
strange happened. Due to subsequent research by Julie and
myself, I suspect that the experience involved an episode that
could be best drawn in analogy to an intelligence interrogation.
The weird table that I was placed upon is significant to this.

> > I will concede that, but it is strange and in my view, real.
I
> > have seen various tentative hypothesis' put forth in an
attempt
> > to explain away these phenomena, but frankly John, I feel
that
> > the majority of these are more strange than the notion of
some
> > type of being whether from across the galaxy or from a
slight
> > phase of reality away from that we are used to perpetrating
> > these events.
>
> Whatever it turns out to be I'm pretty sure it will be
strange...<grin>

I sincerely hope that you never have the opportunity to
experience it.
In the meantime John, I challenge any other abductee and/or
researcher to honestly set aside all of the assumptions and
adopted beliefs that have come about as a result of their
experience(s).
I truly feel that if they do not, then they run the risk of
being mere pawns and/or tools of the ones who perpetrated the
abduction(s) in the first place. I strongly feel that they are
placing themselves in a great amount of danger by insisting on
playing the helpless victim.

I suspect that there is something in common with all of these
folks who experience repeated abduction. A part of that I feel
lies in what I have suggested above. I feel that in order to
begin to make some real headway into what is in fact occurring,
these folks have to break out of the mold into which they have
placed themselves. That they have as I experienced something
decidedly strange, I have no doubt. But, at the same time I
realize that the perpetrators WANT to dictate to me the roadmap
of the experience. Based upon my post-abduction experiences
John, I have come to the tentative conclusion that these beings
can and do appear as they will and are masters of illusion. I
state this because both Julie and myself have witnessed some of
this with our own eyes.

> > As you know, I have my own idea as to what constitutes these
events.
> > I feel most strongly that it is a mistake as well as quite
> > possibly constituting a great amount of danger for many in
> > assuming/believing that these events are perpetrated by
beings
> > from another world across the galaxy. I feel the truth could
be
> > far stranger than that.
>
> The risk in thinking that nothing is happenning is the same as
thinking
> something specific is happenning and being wrong.  Whatever it
is that's
> happenning doesn't apparently know or care what we think...

It has been my observance that the are smug in their own
abilities. They do care when they find that they themselves are
being observed John. They really put on a show of being
startled.

Wishing you and your wife the happiest of holidays on behalf of
Julie and Myself,

Sincere Kind Regards and Holiday Cheer...

  Clark Hathaway