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From: jan@cyberzone.net (Jan Aldrich)
Date: Mon, 23 Dec 1996 09:40:25 -0800
Fwd Date: Wed, 25 Dec 1996 00:06:32 -0500
Subject: Re: Carl Sagan


> From: "Clarke Hathaway" <earthwrk@cyberport.com>
> To: "UFO UpDates - Toronto" <updates@globalserve.net>
> Subject: Re: UFO UpDate: Re: Carl Sagan
> Date: Sun, 22 Dec 1996 15:18:53 -0700

> ----------
> > From: UFO UpDates - Toronto <updates@globalserve.net>
> > To: updates@globalserve.net
> > Subject: UFO UpDate: Re: Carl Sagan
> > Date: Sunday, December 22, 1996 9:42 AM
>
> > From: KRandle993@aol.com
> > Date: Sat, 21 Dec 1996 16:52:03 -0500
> > To: updates@globalserve.net
> > Subject: Re: UFO UpDate: Re: Carl Sagan
>
> > Carl Sagan's death ends a career which, while otherwise superior in
> > its achievements, was sullied by his persistence in his latter years in
> > debunking and ridiculing the abundant evidence for extraterrestrial life
> > and its visitation to Earth.
>
> > It is not credible to suppose that Dr. Sagan did not know better. It
> > is a pity that he allowed himself to be used by the UFO Cover-Up.
>
> >         At least now he knows better.
>
> [...snip...]
>
> > I would think that an ex-priest would have something kinder to say. I'm just
> > completing a book about Project Blue Book and plan to include these words:
>
> > To Carl Sagan: Who prevented the destruction of the Project Blue Book files
> > at great personal cost. Thanks, Dr. Sagan.
>
> > 1934 - 1996
>
> > KRandle
>
> Bravo Kevin!

 [snip]

> Kindest Regards,
>
>     Clarke Hathaway
>         SouthWestern Artist and UFO 'buff'.

I think as Ed Stewart made clear, there is not necessarily a cause and
effect in connection with Sagan's attempt to keep the Blue Book files
from being destroyed, and the Air Force transfering the files to Maxwell
AFB.  However, that he made the effort, did not find favor with some.
Menzel wrote to Condon  that he recommended that the files be closed for
5 years and then made available.

In reading some of the letters that Thronton Page received in protest of
the AAAS presentation it is obvious that some scientists and others like
Phil Klass had rather strong feelings about whether it should occur and
what the program should be.   Page responded that Science would not
crumble if the ufo question were considered by the AAAS.  He refused to
engage in any long arguments with anyone, and just let them know he and
Sagan were going to do this(period).  Sagan's correspondence on the
matter might be interesting although I suspect he let Page carry the ball
on most of the arrangements.

A number of scientists wrote to Condon about the ufo problem while the
Colorado project was active.  Some of Condon's correspondence indicates
that these scientists did so at their professional peril.  Although there
is no indication, he actually took action against anyone, with the
exception of James McDonald and Sagan's admission to the Cosmos Club and
possibly one other, but just a few words in casual conversation is
sometimes enough to cause doubt about someone's professional reputation.

(Condon and Menzel were both more forgiving of Hynek.)

Jan Aldrich