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From: "Julianne Presson" <earthwrk@cyberport.com>
Date: Mon, 23 Dec 1996 12:33:52 -0700
Fwd Date: Wed, 25 Dec 1996 00:10:40 -0500
Subject: Re: Carl Sagan

> From: rich.boylan@24stex.com
> Organization: 24th Street Exchange
> Date: Sun, 22 Dec 96 20:11:50 -0800
> Subject: UFO UPDATE: RE: CARL SA
> To: updates@globalserve.net
>

Yes, it is me Julie, instead of Clark. I have some things to
say.

Besides Merry Christmas and Happy New Year to everyone. :-)


>                         USAF Captain Kevin Randle, (ret.)
wrote:
>
>  > I would think that an ex-priest would have something kinder
to say.
>  > I'm just
>  > completing a book about Project Blue Book and plan to
include these
>  > words:
>
>  > To Carl Sagan: Who prevented the destruction of the Project
Blue
>  > Book files
>
> Kevin:
>
>         I have personally witnesses and experienced the great
mental and
> emotional distress and trauma brought on hundreds of
experiencers of very close
> UFO and extraterrestrial encounters by the snide, dismissive
debunking of same
> by such "authorities" as Carl Sagan. By his complicity in the
UFO Cover-Up, he
                                  ^^^

KEY WORD here "as".... The trauma spoken of is brought on by
violations of personal boundaries by -so-called- highly evolved
beings. The above statement has no basis in fact or findings
from any studies or research done. The above statement is a
dysfunctional view reality. The above statement is like saying,
"A stranger came into your bedroom took you away, tied you up
and raped you because he does not live by the same rules you do.
If anyone tells you different and that there is something wrong
with this stranger doing these things, your trauma and confusion
is their fault not the strangers. So you are a victim of
societies view of what has happened to you and your feelings of
fear and violation are illusion. These beings are really very
highly evolved because they have better toys than us hu-man."
Sorry no cigar, technology does NOT = Spirituality. Never has
never will, it is artificial and keeps us away from our Soul
Work as Carl Jung called it.

Also the concept of someone coming to save us and clean up OUR
mess is an old one. Check out history and you will find many.
The Jews are a good example. It stems from not wanting to take
responsibility for one's actions. Jesus did not fit the mold so
he was killed for political reasons. The mythology surrounding
the events of the life of Jesus are as old as civilization as
well.  Read Joseph Campbell.

> has immeasurably added to the unnecessary suffering of many
tens of thousands
> of experiencers who have had to try to sift between what their
own senses were
> telling them was real, versus Carl Sagan's bland assurances
that there is "no
> evidence" of extraterrestrial visitation to Earth.

He is correct here there is NO scientific evidence of ET
visitations. The man was a great scientist and human being who
had the guts to stand up for what he believed. He shifted his
concern from "what is out there" to seeing that this planet is
still a place where life can exist. I see no problem with this
and I find it hard to believe any -sane- responsible adult can
either.

Any -sane- properly trained Psychologist would never blame shift
either. A -sane- Psychologist would work with his clients so
-the client- learns ways of dealing with boundary issues. A
-sane- Psychologist would NEVER define the clients reality for
them.

These constant vindictive attacks on anyone who does not follow
the NEW AGE belief system to the letter is getting old as mold
and twice as smelly. Robert Morning Star has already put to rest
the hype about the -made up by him- Blue Start Kachina. This was
just one small example of the untruths being spread at the
-so-called- UFO conferences (which are nothing more than New Age
conferences).

>         Those who have participated in the UFO Cover-Up will
have to answer for
> all the needless suffering they have caused. That day of
reckoning is coming.

Apparently you have not a clue as to how karma and Dharma work.
Those who are selling -snake oil- at New Age/UFO conferences are
going to have to answer to the people who pay the money to get
in when none of these aliens show to lift them off the planet or
save their butts.

There is a major difference between a -real- scientist and a
-snake oil- salesman. The scientist looks for evidence to verify
theories. The -snake oil- salesman on the other hand wants the
credibility of the scientist so he debunks and twists everything
the scientist says.

Julianne Presson, CHT