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From: koch@wad.berlin.fido.de (Joachim Koch)
Date: 09 Apr 97 00:03:00 +0000
Fwd Date: Thu, 10 Apr 1997 01:39:42 -0400
Subject: Re: Billy Meier - Another 'Guru's' Finale
Date:08 Apr 97 15:55:00 CET
From: koch@wad.berlin.fido.de <Joachim Koch>
To: UFO UpDates - Toronto <updates@globalserve.net>
Subject: Re: Billy Meier - Another 'Guru's' Finale
Very, very soon after we have posted our brief summary of an
article about Mr. Billy Meier which originally was published by Luc
Buergin (Switzerland) in the latest issue of the German UFO-KURIER
(No. 30), we read here mail by Mr. Michael Hesemann from
Duesseldorf, Germany, stating:
>that Billy Meier's Greek wife Kalliope got divorced and
>tried to "throw mud" against her former husband as many
>frustrated wives did after their divorce before.
We find this a remarkable insight in the psychology of women during
the process of getting divorced.
In case someone would like to ask Mrs. Meier herself about her
reasons for breaking her silence, Luc Buergin has published her
address which we forward here:
Kalliope Meier
poste restante
CH-8488 Turbenthal
Switzerland
Normally, responses to messages from Mr. Hesemann from Duesseldorf,
Germany, don't leave here because most of us here in Germany related
to UFO-research have been fed up for a long time with his extensive,
fruitless, self-opinionated and often embarrassing way of arguing
against those who have a different view of things.
But this one time we would like to add a few sentences as an example
of what we here in Germany have experienced from the 'One and Only'
for many years. He couldn't refrain from denigrating us (which is
just one symptom) even in his introduction to his written piece
although we had neither mentioned nor meant Mr. Hesemann anywhere
in our post.
The most experienced UFO and Crop Circle Researcher of Germany
wrote:
>Unfortunately "the two" from Berlin, J.Koch and J.Kyborg, who claim
>(in their book "Die Antwort des Orion"/"Orion answers", Munchen 1998)
>they communicated with extraterrestrials from Orion by faking crop
>circles in England for three summers, tried to get publicity by
>another unbiased attack against serious UFO research.
Our book entitled "Die Antwort des Orion" (transl.: "The Answer Of
Orion") was published in 1996.
We do not "claim" (if you can read German you can easily verify this)
that we have "communicated with extraterrestrials from Orion".
Instead we reported how we got in touch with the Crop Circle
Phenomenon in Sothern England in 1990, how we tried - and succeeded -
to research the available data, how we developed from these data an
astronomical theory about the possible meaning about these strange
"cerealoglyphs", how we left our armchairs (different from many others
who still claim to be "in the know") and went out into the fields in
England, 1400 km away from Germany, to do the next logocal step: the
"in vivo" experiment.
According to the underlaying numerously repeated graphic principles of
these cerealoglyphs - where we have found twelve of - we created in
1991 a pictogram in a remote field near Alton Barnes, Wiltshire, South
England, as an astronomical question to the obviously existing
Intelligence behind this Phenomenon.
The word "fake", used by the one mentioned above, is a very negative
word, we think it is the same meaning both in English and in German.
Normally this requires consequences - but we have learnt our
lessons...
From the beginning of our research up until now we did everything we
did with full permission of the Farmer, at plain daylight, under full
surveillance of the British Army in their helicopters above us, with
full awareness of the so-called crop circle scene. We did this not
"for three summers" but for six summers - this year will be summer
number seven (counting advice for summers: one hand with five digits
and another hand with two digits - or if you have a being with six
digits :-) a full hand to the left and digit number three to the
right).
The pictogram we created in 1991, July 13th, in fact was answered with
the pictograms of July 16th, Preshute Downs and Barbury Castle.
With the help of the astronomical theory we were able to locate the
star HD 42807 in the constellation of Orion. Simultaneously, we made
an amazing discovery: the same star was encoded in the astronomical
ceiling of the tomb of Senenmut (TT 353) at Deir el Bahri, Egypt,
outside the northeast corner of the temple of a remarkable woman:
Pharao Hatshepsut (MaatKaRe). Additionally, we found from the work of
Prof. Alexander Thom (England) that the astronomical alignments of the
well known and investigated ancient sites such as Stonehenge, Avebury
and others, include all the main six stars of the so-called "Winter
Circle" which is a huge alignment of six constellations of stars you
easily can detect in the night sky in the Winter time.
And in the center of this "Winter Circle" or (in Germany) "Winter
Hexagon" there is the star where the Intelligence behind the Crop
Circle Phenomenon pointed our attentention to.
We reported that with help of our experiments in a remote field near
Alton Barnes we communicated with this Intelligence.
We never claimed to have communicated with "extraterrestrials from
Orion".
We have been members of the legendary "Beckhampton Group" and we
published articles in the CERALOGIST and CCCS CCIRCULAR about our
research at times when the "most famous crop circle researcher of
Germany" was unknown around Avebury.
We do not need "publicity" and we leave it to others to follow this
idolatry.
With our article "Billy Meier - Another 'Guru's' Finale" we intended
to direct public interest to Luc Burgins research in one of the very
unpleasant areas of human aberrations related to the UFO phenomenon.
Our article was no "attack against serious UFO research". :-))
Well...enough.
We send Love and Light to Mr. Michael Hesemann from Duesseldorf, the
Best of Germanys serious, scientific and experienced UFO and Crop
Circle ( and whatever else) Researchers, the one who is the friend
of everyone, the one who is guiding people around in the area of
obviously (and known) hoaxed crop circles in England since some years
for more than 2,000.00 DM each person and who said in German TV (we
have it on tape) that he thinks to be an incarnated extraterrestrial
who is here to bring information to people.
May he find his way through this incarnation and someday reaches the
next evolutionary dimension where it will be easier cope with a
universal truth: to be only a *tiny part* of a larger reality.
Blessings
Joachim Koch & Hans-Juergen Kyborg
FIDO: 2:2410/704.20
IN: koch@wad.berlin.fido.de
Homepage of the International Roswell Initiative, Germany:
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