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From: Jerry Cohen <rjcohen@li.net>
Date: Tue, 15 Apr 1997 07:03:51 -0400
Fwd Date: Tue, 15 Apr 1997 11:08:54 -0400
Subject: Re: Intelligence Agencies and NICAP

Hello there Ed and Jan,

I respect many of the things both of you have been saying. However,
since Dr. Hynek was the one person that kept me sane (by many of his
actions) after I had my own sightings, I have a statement, some
questions and some evidence to present.
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>From: EdKomarek@aol.com
>Date: Fri, 11 Apr 1997 19:44:33 -0400 (EDT)
>To: updates@globalserve.net
>Subject: Re: Intelligence Agencies and NICAP

>>Date: Thu, 10 Apr 1997 23:06:13 -0700
>>From: jan@cyberzone.net (Jan Aldrich)
>>To: UFO UpDates - Toronto <updates@globalserve.net>
>>Subject: Re: UFO UpDate: Re: Intelligence Agencies and NICAP

....snip....

>I am sure you remember the quote attributed to Hillenkoettner.
>Something to the effect that he had gone as far as he could.  Well
>it was very obvious that congressional hearings were causing quite
>a stir.  Keyhoe gets the boot, NICAP disintegrates, then that air
>force swamp gas debunker Hynek suddenly makes a conversion and
>pushes for scientific investigations into UFOs.

JC:   The "swamp gas" remark attributed to Hynek was made when he
got off a plane and was besieged by reporters to tell him what the
sightings were, _before_ he had a chance to investigate. In trying
to take the most rational, earthly view he could at the moment, he
made the comment "it could possibly be 'swamp gas.'"

If Hynek was so close with the government & the Air Force, why did
he write the following in his book the UFO Experience? Click below
to read what he wrote:

http://www.li.net/~rjcohen/ocr.5a.html

Also for some more accurate information on this time period please
also peruse the following:

        =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
        UFOS, A SYNOPSIS OF AN EXTREMELY RELEVANT HISTORY
        =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=

at:      ocr.4a.html    You can click straight to it from the last
page of the prior essay.  It is all footnoted and extremely
accurate.  Begin your reading in "4a" _after_ the "1960 SKYTHING."
Beginning with "Most of us didn't know it back then....."

You will also find this in his letter to Col. Sleeper:

". . . . . many astronomical evaluations have been made by Blue
Book without consulting their scientific consultant (who is, after
all, an astronomer) which have brought ridicule in the press. The
midwest flap of reports of July 31-August 1, 1965 can be cited as
an example."

Then ask yourself: "Why did he write the articles for "Newsweek
10/10/66" and "Saturday Evening Post 12/17/66" and say the things he
said? I honestly do not believe he would have done all this if he
were a "mole."


>....snip....   Hell he was UFO PR man for the air force.

JC:   At first, but not towards the end of his tenure at Blue Book.
I am fairly certain the Air Force would have quietly fired him (thus
removing him from his data source, i.e. Blue Book cases) if he had
made any more waves than he did. As it was they were looking to
close Project Blue Book. Hynek was getting too public with his
remarks. It was getting more difficult for them to fire him.

>As to evidence that Hynek was playing both sides of the fence I
>would refer you to some of Len Stringfields literature expecialy
>the little run in Len had with Hynek.  I talked to Len about that
>in person when he was alive.  That little series of events is very
>enlightening from a intelligence perspective.

JC:   Ed, I'm not familiar with this. Do you have it available?
BTW, yes, Hynek was playing both sides of the fence, but I don't
believe it was as you said, but rather, to keep his job and stay as
close to the major data from the Air Force as he could.

>Then we have MUFON and FUFOR come into existance with a man with a
>NSA background taking, formulative and critical positions in both
>organizations. Of course if Thomas D. is a mole plugging security
>leaks and gathering intelligence he is not going to fess up.  One
>thing for sure is that Thomas D. is in exactly the place a
>intelligence mole should be.  I am not saying that he is a mole but
>he sure as hell is a prime suspect if there every was one just as
>Hynek was.  I or anybody else in their right mind would not give
>sensitive information to MUFON, CUFOS or FUFOR.

JC:   Jerome Clark has been an excellent writer/editor of CUFOS.
(Along with Jan, Greg and many others that have written for their
journal.) I have agreed with a good portion of what he. they and
others have written. I personally have not had any bad feelings
about that organization. However, I did feel something was really
wrong with NICAP towards the end. That's why I eventually stopped
subscribing to them and switched to CUFOS when Dr. Hynek originally
founded it. (Along with, I believe, Sherman Larsen amongst others.)

Jerry Cohen

E-mail:  Jerry Cohen <rjcohen@li.net>

 Author: Oberg/Cooper rebuttals
Website: http://www.li.net/~rjcohen

P.S.    BTW, Dr. Hynek also sent out the following FOIA releases
along with CUFOS journal in January 1982.

http://www.li.net/~rjcohen/frnt.sci.81.html

The above was a follow-up to a previous release of information in
1979. That information appears in the following reprint of a
Washington Post article which also appeared in Newsday, a respected
Long Island newspaper.

http://www.li.net/~rjcohen/Nsday.Art.79.html

And you can view his own personal comments on same at:
http://www.li.net/~rjcohen/ocr.3b.html#anchor75480

These articles can probably be found via local libraries, although
the Frontiers of Science article may be more difficult to come by.

P.P.S   Ed, add to this the fact that this man, who didn't know me
from a "hole in the wall," called my home (Long Island, NY) in
December 1981 from Evanston, Illinois, after I had written him a
letter concerning my '67 sightings. He spent 15 minutes with me on
the phone discussing it and giving me his son's phone # (his son
worked on Madison Ave. in New York) along with Bud Hopkin's name
(neither of which I ever called). It makes it difficult for me to
believe that Dr. Hynek was anything but 100% sincere.

I also read the letters in the 1986 May/June CUFOS memorial journal
from staff and friends dedicated to Dr. Hynek after he passed away.
Ed, all of these people respected him immensely and not one of them
gave even the least hint of what you are saying about him.

Respectfully,
Jerry Cohen

E-mail:  Jerry Cohen <rjcohen@li.net>

 Author: Oberg/Cooper rebuttals
Website: http://www.li.net/~rjcohen
UFOmind: http://www.ufomind.com/ufo/people/c/cohen/