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From: Michael Christol <mchristo@mindspring.com>
Date: Thu, 7 Aug 1997 21:08:49 -0400 (EDT)
Fwd Date: Fri, 08 Aug 1997 00:43:21 -0400
Subject: Re: Phoenix Lights - 'Solved'?

>Date: Thu, 7 Aug 1997 03:26:46 -0500 (CDT)
>To: UFO UpDates - Toronto <updates@globalserve.net>
>From: Amy Hebert <yelorose@swbell.net>
>Subject: Re: UFO UpDate: Re: Phoenix Lights - 'Solved'?

>>Date: Fri, 25 Jul 1997 15:21:50 -0500
>>To: UFO UpDates - Toronto <updates@globalserve.net>
>>From: John Velez <jvif@spacelab.net>
>>Subject: Re: UFO UpDate: Phoenix Lights - 'Solved'?

><snip>

>>Still awaiting a 'serious' investigation. Don't be so quick to
>>dismiss these sightings Kal, there's more to them than the
>>airforce will have us all believe.

>>John Velez


>This reply is not necessarily addressed to just you, John.  It's
>just my two-cents worth in this controversy.


>I've reviewed and reviewed the Phoenix lights and simply cannot
>decide what actually happened that night and what those things
>were.  I don't think we will ever know the truth.  If I/we don't
>accept that, this controversy could go on for centuries with no
>real answers revealed.  What good will come of this use of our
>time?  Might there be better ways of seeking truth?

>Ever since I saw that crescent shaped object on June 7th, I have
>found myself struggling to understand the MEANING of this
>sighting.  Over and over I wonder, "WHAT was that that I and the
>other witnesses saw?  Was it physical or non-physical?  Was it
>an object or a hologram?  Was it made by humans,
> extraterrestrials, multi-dimensionals, or some phenomenon I
>have yet to imagine?  Did I see it because I study UFOs or was
>it a chance sighting?  Why MY back yard?"

>I have so many questions and no answers. Over and over I ask,
> "What is the MEANING?!!  WHAT IS THE MEANING?!!!"  It HAS
>meaning but what is it?!!

>There was purpose and meaning to all that happened in and over
>Phoenix that night.  What did it mean?  What did it mean to us
>on an individual basis?  What did it mean on a community level?
>What did it mean on a national and worldwide level?  Obviously
>it had more than one meaning to many people.

>Were the lights physical or non-physical?  We don't know.  Were
>they on one object or many objects?  We don't know.  Were they
>aircraft or multidimensional phenomena?  We don't know.  Were
>they made by humans, ETs or a combination of both or many
>sources?  We don't know.  Was it a trick by our government?  Was
>it a trick by aliens?  Was it meant to prove that UFOs exist and
>aliens are here or was it meant to cause endless controversy,
> debate and distraction?  We may never know the answers to these
>questions.

Why don't you quit analyzing the thing you saw and just accept
the fact that you saw something.

You are going to drive yourself crazy if you continue to analyze
it.  IF you are meant to know "why" you will find out.
How many people do you think just wish they could have seen
what you saw?  Do you think by analyzing if continuously, that
you will make it go away?

Why does there have to be a reason or purpose for your having
seen it?  Is there such a thing to you as just being in the
right place at the right (wrong??) time?

To heck with the "endless controversy," theory.  Just be content
to know that you can add yourself to the "ever growing" list of
"sightee's." <g>

I had ONE sighting and that was back in 1967.  I didn't ask why?
I wondered if I would ever have another one.  Well, so far, I
haven't.

Does it have to mean something everytime you see a rainbow after
a rainstorm?  Or a Lightning bolt during a thunderstorm?  No, it doesn't.
It is just a by-product of the event itself.  Do you lay awake at
night trying to figure out why lighning strikes?  I doubt it.
If it is possible that UFOs are some, yet to be understood, natural
phenomena, then time will provide the answers.

Most finds are "accidental."  They occurr while researching something
else.  If this is a natural phenomena, then it will eventually be
discovered, probably by accident.

I don't automatically suscribe to the idea that UFOs are "alien"
spacecraft.  I don't know what they are.

I KNOW there are a lot of PARANOID people who think that UFOs and
the ???? within them are either Angels or demons.  They see them as
Saviours or our People and Planet.  While others see them as Destroyers
of the human race and scavengers of the planet.

Each "abductee" has a different prespective.  One says they are not
a threat to humanity, but wish to help us save our world and advance
our species.

Others are terrified and claim they have been raped and abused by
Reptilians, Tall Greys, etc.

How can there be such a diversity of ALIEN Intervention?  If one is
interested in Helping Save Humanity and the Earth, why would they
sit by and and watch other races rape and pillage us?

Something just doesn't add up here.  You can't have it both ways.
If they are advanced enought to travel through space/Time/dimension,
they are smart enought to know that there are others here with
intentions opposite of their own.  Why would they allow such
to continue?

I am moving more and more toward the idea that "most" of the Abduction
phenomena is nothing more than pure hyseria and paranoia!  Escapists!
Tired of the day to day oppression by governments, businesses, employers,
spouces, children, etc., etc., etc.

So, they allow their desire for someone or something to blame it on,
to manufacture "aliens!"  By the same token, those of a basic religious
faith, manufacture "Angels" or "good aliens," to help them cope with
these daily oppressive life events.

To close this tirade <G> I again say, don't spend so much time and energy
analyzing your sighting to death.

Also, don't let these armchair investigators discourage you from doing
your research.  They don't have the answers.  They just like to impress
others with the idea that they do.  It is strictly an EGO thing.

IF they had the answers, they wouldn't be here arguing every day.  They
would be on the TV and Lecture Tour, as well as in the world newspapers
providing proof positive of what they know.

Instead, they have nothing but their belligerent opinion and constantly
express it to belittle those with whom they disagree.

There are no "experts" in UFOLOGY.  How can there be EXPERTS in a field
which "Science/Military/Political" establishments refuse to acknowledge?
If it is ever acknowledged by those establishments, then we can start
to accquire data and develop "experts," in "A new field of Science."
Until then, each person, regardless of whom they are, or what they
profess to Know, is just as equal as anyone else.

To date, whether we like or not; apprecite it or not; agree or not;
UFOLOGY IS "SCIENCE FICTION."  Circumstantial Evidence is not EVIDENCE!

REgards, Mike C.