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From: psa@direct.ca (Paul Anderson) Date: Thu, 28 Aug 1997 10:45:13 -0800 Fwd Date: Thu, 28 Aug 1997 16:11:48 -0400 Subject: Re: Re: Circles Phenomenon... >From: Chris Rutkowski <rutkows@cc.UManitoba.CA> >Subject: Re: UFO UpDate: Re: Circles Phenomenon... >To: updates@globalserve.net (UFO UpDates - Toronto) >Date: Tue, 19 Aug 1997 09:03:32 -0500 (CDT) >I didn't say I *had* made any "solid judgement". I'm open to the >possibility that some circles are real. After investrigating dozens >of circles, this one didn't look that good of a case to me. I have since spoken with a couple other reporters, one from Global TV in Saskatoon, who informed me that they took the aerial footage shown on the news broadcasts; the first formation of three circles had already been swathed by the farmer by that time. Therefore, one cannot make a good judgement as to the original "quality" of the formation. Another reporter, from BBS TV in Yorkton, was one of the first people in it (before it was cut down); she told me the circles looked very neatly swirled and flattened. She is providing me with photos and video, which I should have shortly. That will give a better idea as to their actual original condition. Sorry, I didn't mean to imply a "solid judgement" on your part, it just seems that, as is often the case with the phenomenon in this country, the "UFO community", in general, seems ot tend to take these events less seriously than they used to, in the wake of "Doug and Dave" and other hoaxing claims (yes, there is hoaxing going on, but there is also evidence for a real, incredible phenomenon). I recognize that you have done a lot of your own investigations in the past, as have other individuals, and that is to be commended. I'm just saying that sometimes, even if a case looks suspect initially, it still pays to dig a bit. The reporter from Global TV also informed me that they found a second formation a few days later (August 11), as they were filming the first one (found August 7). This one is a single circle on the same Indian Reservation (Kawacatoose), but in a separate field. It had not been reported per se, from what I can tell at this point. Both of these reports are now on the CPR-Canada web site (address below). The RCMP are now saying the circles were a case of wind damage or lodging, in their opinion. I do think there are probably a fair number of formations which never get reported, period. We have a much larger land area to deal with than in England or Holland, for example (Holland now seems to be in second place behind England for number and quality of formations). >Well, I like many people, have trouble with Levengood's >analyses, so this doesn't mean very much, I'm afraid. But I keep >searching for good evidence and incontrovertible evidence of >anomalies, so I keep watching for reports of anomalies in the >media. One can quibble until the cows come home about Levengood's analysis specifics, the fact is however, that there are physical changes to the plants frommany formations (both simple circles *and* complex "pictograms") which are clearly visible to anyone, ie. the plant nodes being blown open from the inside outwards, shrunken and dehydrated seeds (I have some I use in talks (along with node samples) - they are *very* dehydrated compared to normal, healthy seeds, etc. Until someone can *prove* to me that simple hoaxing can cause such effects, not to mention countless reports of camera / battery / video camera failures and compass spinning inside formations, photographic anomalies, small globes of light often seen in the fields, people experiencing nausea and headaches, animals acting strangely or refusing to enter circles, etc., etc., etc., (all of which would seem to possibly support the idea of a residual energy of some sort being present in and around the formations) then we have a mystery yet unsolved, be it natural or of intelligent origin. If even only some of the complex pictogram patterns are indeed part of this, then I feel we are dealing an intelligent phenomenon, perhaps manipulating a natural energy source. Levengood does provide some evidence, I think, of how these are being made, in scientific terms, but we still do not know by who(?) or why. Even the simple circles are still important. Some may indeed be the result of natural, poorly understood atmospheric processes. But the incredible fractal patterns, for example? I doubt it. BTW, I'm open to, and encourage testing by any reputable labs. The more the better, for comparison studies. Also, the media? The media, for the most part, do *not* report adequately on the many anaomalies that are associated with this phenomenon. >That's too bad. The aerial shots showed that the crop had >already been swathed, too, so that would hamper further >investigation and testing. It's odd that they're not allowing >investigators there. I've been invited onto reservation land >many times to look into cases of various kinds. I wonder what >their reasoning might be. Simple. The farmer *was* allowing reporters, the RCMP, etc. in at first, until his field was being overrun by people from the reservation tromping and driving through it. Then he swathed the formation and that was it. Nobody else apparently (researchers) investigated before it was cut down (if any even knew about it beforehand, of course). Nothing odd about it, really. Of course I realize that you are in Manitoba, but nobody in Saskatchewan has done any follow-up, from what I can tell at this point, other than the RCMP (from Panashi detachment) and news reporters. MUFON seems to have virtually disappeared in that province. There's Daniel Clairmont, of course, who has done excellent investigations of his own, but he told me the site was too far from him to be worth the trip. He saw the same clip on TV that you did, and also decided it wasn't too good of a case (as it had already been swathed anyway). We need some good formations that we can hear about in time to get to before they are destroyed, like in previous years. >Hmmm. It was CTV, probably coming from their Regina or >Saskatoon affiliate. No other network carried it that I saw, and >nothing appeared in any newspaper. Because I had just been >surfing channels, I didn't have a videotape ready. There have been a couple of newspaper articles now, in the Leader Post - August 18 and the Star Phoenix - August 16. Possibly also the small local paper of Panashi. I did confirm that BBS TV and Global TV covered it, as mentioned above, going out to their affiliates. >Keep up the great work, though! Your dedication and >investigative action is exactly what this field (pun intended) >needs! Thanks, I do appreciate the compliments. And likewise, re your excellent and on-going UFO investigations in this country. Paul Anderson Director Circles Phenomenon Research Canada Affiliate of Circles Phenomenon Research International Suite 202 - 2086 West 2nd Avenue, Vancouver, BC V6J 1J4 Tel / Fax: 604.731.8522 E-Mail: psa@direct.ca Web: http://www.geocities.com/Area51/Cavern/3310 Director The Millennium Group Suite 202 - 2086 West 2nd Avenue, Vancouver, BC V6J 1J4 Tel / Fax: 604.731.8522 E-Mail: psa@direct.ca Web: http://mypage.direct.ca/p/psa/ (under construction)
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