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From: Graham William Birdsall <106151.1150@compuserve.com>
Date: Fri, 14 Feb 1997 10:30:16 -0500
Fwd Date: Sat, 15 Feb 1997 02:28:15 -0500
Subject: Re: Is 'Dr.' Lee Shargel Real - Or a Real Problem?

>Date: 11 Feb 97 15:02:42 EST
>From: BOB SHELL <76750.2717@CompuServe.COM>
>To: UFO UpDates - Toronto <updates@globalserve.net>
>Subject: Re: UFO UpDate: Re: Is 'Dr.' Lee Shargel Real - Or a Real Problem?


>Graham,

>I should have said that I was not disgusted with all of the presentations
last
>year, just more than half, and that I was not there for the entire
conference.
>Just to be fair.

>BTW, you are one of the people from last year that I was not disgusted
with!!!

>What's your take on Bob Dean?

Dear Bob,

Thanks for marking my scorecard!

As for Bob Dean?

He's a warm and kind-hearted individual whose allegations about his time
spent at SHAPE (Supreme Headquarters Allied Powers Europe) in Paris,
France, are legendary. There are those who question his claims to have seen
a COSMIC TOP SECRET briefing document which he alleged contained a wealth
of UFO information within, not least former Admiral of the Fleet, the Lord
Hill Norton, and best-selling British author and UFO researcher, Timothy
Good.

Interestingly, it's now a matter of public record that there was such a
classification called COSMIC TOP SECRET around in the 60s and still exists
today,  though the few ex-servicemen people who confirmed its existence
were not privy to the data within. I personally spoke with two ex-Royal
Navy submariners who told me COSMIC TOP SECRET was used in their radio-ops
room.

The point I'm making is that Bob Dean's critics insisted at the outset that
there was no such classification - Timothy Good, although still firmly
convinced that Dean's allegations should be taken with the proverbial pinch
of salt, now acknowledges the classification does exist.

As with all claims uttered by former military and intelligence personell
about UFOs, I would simply say they must be treated with a great deal of
cautious scepticism - not least because this group of people more than any
other, have sworn allegiance to their sovereign or head of state. I've no
doubt that some of these are engaged full-time in the UFO subject; some to
monitor civilian activities and others to spread disinformation as and when
required to do so.

I do have one small but possibly significant snippet of news from my recent
2-week visit to the United States. On Thursday, 23 January, I spoke with
Chuck Clarke at the Little A'le Inn in Rachel, Nevada. He revealed that
only hours earlier, a USAF official (who Chuck trusts 100%) had spoken with
him and revealed he had seen camouflaged hangar doors built into a
mountain-side at S4 (Papoose Dry Lake - Area 51).

This was the first independent corroboration of sorts that the hangar
doors, first mentioned by  Bob Lazar back in 1989, may indeed exist. I say
'may' because Chuck's information came by way of a serving USAF official.
Nonetheless, it enters the melting pot along with the rest.

All the best,


Graham W. Birdsall [Editor]

UFO Magazine (UK)