Aliens On Earth.com Resources for those who are stranded here UFOs | Paranormal | Area 51 People | Places | Random Top 100 | What's New Catalog | New Books Search... for keyword(s)   in Page Titles in Book Title/Author in Contents of Pages ---other searches--- Metacrawler Yahoo FAST Search Google Altavista Dogpile Inference Find Northern Light IWon.com MSN Search Las Vegas Sun Our Bookstore is OPEN Mothership -> UFO -> Updates -> 1997 -> Jan -> Here

From: Theresa <70571.1735@CompuServe.COM>
Date: 15 Jan 97 18:41:48 EST
Fwd Date: Thu, 16 Jan 1997 00:22:32 -0500
Subject: Re: The Two Faces of Ufology

>Date: Mon, 13 Jan 1997 23:57:19 -0800
>From: Ed Stewart <egs@netcom.com
>To: UFO UpDates - Toronto <updates@globalserve.net>
>Subject: Re: UFO UpDate: The Two Faces of Ufology

Ed Stewart,

> If you would have bothered to check back into the
>past records of this mailing list you would known that I posted the
>appropriate record groups related to the Manhattan Project sometime last
>year for people to follow up on. BTW, the record groups, for everyone's
>information, is given on Rhode's "The Making of the Atomic Bomb" on page
>791, published over ten years ago in 1986.

    Then why did you ask me for the record group, box, folder, etc.???

>Wrong. I knew you had the references. What I didn't know was whether you
>had copies of the actual alleged photos.

    What alleged photos are you talking about? I have a video of footage  that
is reported to be from Trinity, first shows the fireball from the ground, the
same footage that most everyone is familiar with.  Then it shows  aerial footage
of the fireball pushing up  thru the cloud cover.

>That you failed to provide in your response. You never address what this
>alleged evidence in the archives specifically contained. You
>circumvented all around it.

     In the previous message to you I mentioned that I looked for the
whereabouts of Luis Alvarez at the time of the blast.  What I found in that
archive was his eyewitness testimony. He witnessed it from a plane.  You see, I
read in Lansing Lamont's book "Day of Trinity" that Alvarez was on a plane at
the time. But the UFO experts were saying that there were no planes in the air.
So I checked to see if I could find where he was, if not on a plane. The
document says he WAS on a plane in the air and saw the top of the blast cloud.

>In other words, you have not seen this alleged footage of the blast
>cloud. You are basing your claim without any verification that can be
>attributed to real evidence.

     But I have a copy of it on video already!  What I wasn't sure was if it was
Trinity or not. The Archive Technician said it was from my discription of it.
The only way I could do better than that, is to purchase copies from the
archives.  They are quite expensive.  However, the statement you made was that
you weren't aware of planes in the air at the time of the blast.  Please check
the archives for the Luis Alvarez statement. You did kindly offer to verify that
information.

>If you have actually checked and seen that this alleged footage is of the blast
>cloud, reproduce it and post here for everyone to see. If not, admit
>that you don't have a clue as to what you have been posturing about and
>that your accountability and credibility are traits that you need
>improvement on.

    Does this mean that your offer to verify the information no longer stands?

    I can't very well post the footage that I have here.  I can post the
eyewitness account if you would like, but it won't be the same as you verifying
it with the archives yourself. But yes, I will admit that my accountability and
credibility need improvement. Doesn't yours?

      Regards,

        Theresa