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From: John Velez <jvif@spacelab.net>
Date: Wed, 16 Jul 1997 03:35:15 -0500
Fwd Date: Wed, 16 Jul 1997 11:42:08 -0400
Subject: Re: Hoagland in Phoneix -- AZ Republic Article
>From: XianneKei@aol.com
>Date: Tue, 15 Jul 1997 17:28:23 -0400 (EDT)
>To: updates@globalserve.net
>Subject: Hoagland in Phoneix -- AZ Republic Article
>http://www.azcentral.com/news/0715ufo.shtml
>Pathfinder's success
>mars author's theory
>------------------------------------------------------------------------
>By Steve Yozwiak
>The Arizona Republic
>July 15, 1997
>What was billed as a conference to show the connections between Phoenix
>and a supposed city on Mars left folks emptying the Phoenix Civic Plaza
>in the wee hours Tuesday with as many questions as when they arrived.
>And one of the supposed "amazing new connections" touted by master of
>ceremonies Richard C. Hoagland turned out to be completely wrong.
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Hi Errol, All,
Charlie Brown- "Arrrrghhhh!"
First Governor Symington ridicules and minimizes the impact of the mass
sighting in Phoenix, and now Hoagland & Bell roll into town with their
'Magical Mystical Tour' spouting 'predictions' and making connections that
exist only within the framework of their own synapses.
In short, rather than using his credentials to try to bring credibility to
the sighting, Hoagland chose to capitalize on it and take a page from the
Ringling Bros. as he rolled into town with his circus! Gypsy predictions,
dramatic threats that remind one of country preachers on any given Sunday
morning in any rural church, ie; the following:
Quote: Richard Hoagland
>"Something is going to happen here between the 20th and 26th (of July),"
>Hoagland told the audience. Whether it's good or bad may be up to the
>people of Phoenix, he said.
[Sing Along] "...so be good for goodness sake!" Whoa-ohhhh <VBG>
Good aliens, bad aliens,...it's apparently all up to the good citizens of
Phoenix! Don't f*ck-up guys, the Earth is counting on you to ask for the
'good package'!
I get mad as Hell when I hear stuff like this. Know why?
THERE IS SOMETHING MAJOR GOING ON FOLKS, AND WE HAVE TO GET SERIOUS,
AND SOON!
These "visitors" are abducting our citizens, and they appear anywhere and
anytime they want to with complete impunity. Why are we wasting our time
with Hoaglands and Bells?
We've got to clean house folks, guys like Hoagland (for all the attention
they get) are just 'camera whores' in the end. He is hurting the
credibility of a good solid case like the one in Phoenix by attaching an
'Oral Roberts' style, (if Ahh don't get nine million dollahs by noon, de
Good Lawd is goina strike me deyad) quality to them. Ya gotta love a guy
like that!
They're not about truth, they're not about serious investigation, they're
not about helping the people of Phoenix, (and the rest of us) to get some
straight answers. They are about 'themselves.'
Example: Rather than discuss the merits/particulars of the case or to
report the results of any investigations into the matter, Mr Bell chose to
focus on the following;
Ringmaster Bell, (in true 'media pro style') extended the program by a
half-an-hour so that it wouldn't end on the following note:
>Just before the originally scheduled end of the Art Bell simulcast, a
>man named Albert Wilson of Tucson blurted into the microphone that
>foreign soldiers were going to move out the populace of Phoenix so
>powerful forces could mine the up to one million tons of gold burried
>deep under the city.
Who _are_ these people?! (Bell & Hoagland) Why in Hell does anyone
attend/tune into these things? What the devil does any of it have to do
with the sighting in Phoenix!
I don't know why Bell didn't want it to end there, on that note! Mr Wilson
put the 'capper' on the whole presentation, he summarized it, no,...he
embodied the real spirit of it! <G>
The only difference between Mr Wilson's insane remark, and Hoagland's insane
remarks, is a matter of just a few degrees of 'rotation'. I thank God that
the people of Phoenix know which direction their local rivers run! Think of
how many he may have deluded or distracted from the real business at hand -
the mass sighting of March 13th!
They are doing us all a disservice. Instead of bringing sober, inquiring
minds to Phoenix or serious attention to the case, they bring, the "Art
Bell Circus" featuring, Richard Hoagland, the terminally verbose and long
winded 'Snoremaster' of Cydonia! We're talking about 'Bell and Hoagland'
instead of Phoenix! See what I mean?
You don't see many reporters talking to Tom King or Bill Hamilton, or
showing the videotapes that these gentlemen have collected on their
newscasts. Can anyone tell me why?
Time to clean house, eliminate the dead weight. The task and the challenge
at hand is way too serious and has too many implications for all mankind
for us to waste time entertaining and supporting the likes of Bell and
Hoagland. Our time would be much better spent pushing for congressional
hearings, or demanding answers for Phoenix from our representatives.
Reminder: Frightening numbers of our citizens (worldwide) are reporting
troublesome and confusing UFO/abduction related sightings, experiences and
memories. I'm not just blowing wind up your skirt either, I _know_ from
first hand experience what I'm talking about.
We just can't afford the luxury of indulging in the time and energy wasting
distractions offered by the Bells and Hoaglands. We need to focus ourselves
and demand some answers and an immediate and serious investigation now,
from our rep's. not more showbiz. Most folks already have 78 channels of
shit pouring into their homes.
Bell & Hoagland like many others in the field are just symptoms that our
priorities and sensibilities are F.U.B.A.R.!
[Mother's soto-voce]: "Yoooo-hooooo, it's time to wake uuuuuup!"
John Velez, Alien Spawn ;)
John Velez
jvif@spacelab.net
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