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From: Henny van der Pluijm <hvdp@worldonline.nl>
Date: Fri, 18 Jul 1997 05:15:14 +0200 (MET DST)
Fwd Date: Thu, 17 Jul 1997 23:30:31 -0400
Subject: Re: Bursting the Balloon


>Date: Thu, 17 Jul 1997 14:29:53 -0500
>To: UFO UpDates - Toronto <updates@globalserve.net>
>From: John Velez <jvif@spacelab.net>
>Subject: Re: UFO UpDate: Re: Bursting the Balloon

>>From: RTodd12191@aol.com
>>Date: Thu, 17 Jul 1997 08:35:21 -0400 (EDT)
>>To: updates@globalserve.net
>>Subject: Re: UFO UpDate: Bursting the Balloon

>>< From: Andromeda0@aol.com [Jared Anderson]
>>< Date: Tue, 15 Jul 1997 05:14:10 -0400 (EDT)
>>< To: updates@globalserve.net
>>< Subject: Bursting the Balloon

>>< If anyone needs a good laugh they can goto this location to
>>< read the Air Force's dummy report: http://www.af.mil/lib/roswell/ >

>(snip)

>>Unfortunately for Jared Anderson, the full text of the new Air Force
>>report is not available on the internet.  I must assume, therefore,
>>that Mr. Anderson has not yet seen and read the full report, and
>>is writing out of ignorance.  What a surprise.
>>Colonel Haynes should have said,
>>"Well, did you ever consider the possibility that the witnesses were
>>lying?"  Perhaps he thought the press was intelligent enough to arrive at
>>that conclusion on their own, without having it spelled out for them.
>>Perhaps the Air Force's only sin was in overestimating the intelligence of
>>the press.

>Bob,

>Have (you) ever considered the possibility that the Airforce is lying? I
>had an opportunity to meet a couple of the folks in Roswell that you feel
>the Airforce should have summarily labelled liars. They seemed to me to
>be sweet, ordinary folks that are just trying to do the right thing by
>coming forward and telling what they know.

>The military on the other hand has a long and glorious history of outright
>lies and deception. Just one glaring example: Viet Nam, the "gulf incident"
>that president Johnson used in order to plunge us deeper into that war was
>a non-event! Manufactured in order to sell congress a war that only the
>generals wanted. I lost friends there. That little fib cost us 50,000+ guys!

John,

Why jump to the conclusion that the Air Force is lying? Have you ever
considered that they are simply mistaken? From my point of view the guys
from the Air Force who were involved (Weaver and McAndrew) are bureaucrats
who are not paid to produce answers and solutions to the public.
I mean what would they gain when they came back with real quality research?
Would they get promoted or get a salary raise? Does anyone higher up in
the Air Force has a stake in finding out the truth about Roswell? Not that
I know.

So is there any incentive for Weaver and McAndrew to dig for the
real answers? Are their mortgages threatened when they don't?
Can they get fired when they screw up? Of course not.

As far as I know these bureaucrats in the Pentagon are paid for sitting
behind their desks and produce as much paperwork as they can. That is the
company culture. This would also explain to me why keep producing
reports.

You could say that they should be paid for producing answers, but we
are talking about how things are, not how they should be.
People can see lies and conspiracy, I see plain, common bureaucracy
that is always screwing things up, whether it's the Air Force or the
IRS.


About the alien technology being kept secret. That may well be.
But if this secret alien tech exists, chances are that it is located
at a place like Area 51. As Col. Haines, who did the presentation,
admitted: he had no access to information about that. Now you could
say he is lying too. But I think he is speaking the truth. Sensitive
high technology is always being kept secret. And you can't keep a
secret when you let everyone in the Air Force know about it.
This beside the fact that, judging from his body language,
he looked very sincere.

So things could be a mix of both believers and skeptics theories:
there could be an alien spaceship or two in the possesion of the
Air Force, but Haines, Weaver and McAndrew could be telling the truth
at the same time, i.e. that they have no knowledge of it.

What it would take to get real answers to this? I don't know.



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                      Henny van der Pluijm
                       hvdp@worldonline.nl
                     Leiden, The Netherlands
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