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From: Stuart & Toni <livesey@trump.net.au>
Date: Mon, 21 Jul 1997 09:42:14 +1000
Fwd Date: Sun, 20 Jul 1997 20:27:24 -0400
Subject: Re: Nightwatch Online - Discussion with Velez -

>>Date: Sun, 20 Jul 1997 01:34:42 -0500
>>To: updates@globalserve.net
>>From: John Velez <jvif@spacelab.net>
>>Subject: Nightwatch Online Interview

>> Discussion with John Velez


>>Question:
>>Have there been reliable accounts of experiences with aliens that never
>>involve physical encounters - i.e. no experiments or UFO involved? In other
>>words, mental only?  Also, what do you think becomes of the hybrids when
>>they reach maturity? We only hear about the fetus to childhood?

>>John Velez:
>>First, I've never heard of a "mental abduction" don't know what it is so I
>>won't resond to that one. Secondly, we don't know what happens to the
>>hybrids or even why they are being created. Lookout though, anyone who
>>claims to have THE answers to (those questions) is probably going to try to
>>sell you Amway products too! <G>

I was interested to read the entire interview because it certainly
answered a lot of questions I have had about abductions. I particularly
found this question interesting because there has been  such a case
reported here in Australia. The details have been publicised by Keith
Basterfield and appear in his book, UFOs: A Report on Australian
Encounters. What makes the report even more interesting is that it took
place while the abductee was with two investigators from the Victorian UFO
Research Society.

The abductee reported a number of encounters over a relatively short time
and had arranged to meet the investigators at the site where most of the
contacts had occurred. When the abductee arrived the investigators got into
her car and one stated that "there seemed to be a 'presence' in the vehicle
and their hair stood on end. Shortly after the abductee saw a man on the
side of the road but neither investigator saw anything. Then the abductee
went into what was described as a "trance-like state" and, while holding
onto one of the investigator's hands, described the abduction as it took
place. While it was taking place the investigators saw nothing and at no
time did the abductee disappear from their sight. After the event the
abductee could not remember anything that she had said.

After the event all three went back to the abductee's home where a further
abduction occurred and again the investigators saw nothing and at no time
did the abductee disappear from their sight. However, on this occasion the
abductee did not lapse into a trance and the abductee was simultaneously
aware of being at home and being abducted. This second abduction lasted for
only a brief time.

On a slightly different tack, I am interested to hear if anyone knows of
any "famous" people who may have been abducted. It puzzles me that while
some abductees report medical-like tests, others report being given
messages regarding the Earth's future or possible environmental cataclysms.
Why are only ordinary people given these messages? It would make more sense
(if anything to do with UFOs make sense) to impart these warnings to people
with the power to make the necessary changes.

Stuart Livesey