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Re: Santilli Had Jeffrey 'Pegged'

From: Steven Kaeser <steve@konsulting.com>
Date: Wed, 23 Jul 1997 09:59:01 -0400
Fwd Date: Wed, 23 Jul 1997 13:09:13 -0400
Subject: Re: Santilli Had Jeffrey 'Pegged'

>From: XianneKei@aol.com
>Date: Mon, 21 Jul 1997 14:22:36 -0400 (EDT)
>To: updates@globalserve.net
>Subject: Re: UFO UpDate: Re: Santilli Had Jeffrey 'Pegged'

>To the best of my knowledge Kent called the cameramen's association (don't
>remember the name of the organization but it is in his SCAM article) and was
>given names/phone #'s of three people: Longo, Gibson and McGovern. I think
>the first 3 he spoke to gave him all the same (or nearly the same answers)
>but to be sure I would recommend that you contact Kent for the additional
>and/or correct details. How many should he have interviewed?

>It's easy to criticize what we ourselves have not investigated. You have
>proof that Kent's cameramen are incorrect? Present the evidence and confront
>them but don't do it on the "net" until AFTER you have contacted the men with
>whom you may disagree.

My comments weren't necessarily meant to be critical, but to point out that
bias is a factor that may well have come into play.  The number of
cameramen interviewed is irrelevent if you've gone through a selection
process to make sure they can provide the statements you require to make
your point.  Where he obtained the names, their years of service, and
portfolio is interesting information, and could help to lend credibility to
their comments.  But in the end, he would have to make a value judgement on
which interviews to use, and it would only make sense for him to use those
that supported his own beliefs (or the viewpoint he wanted to promote).

It was obvious that Kent was convinced that the AA film was a fake from the
beginning.  I probably would have been more willing to listen to his
comments if he had not relied so heavily on the fact that the AA creature
looked too human, which he charactorized as an impossibility.  That opinion
certainly can't be proven and seems to indicate pre-conceived notions that
many might not agree with.  Unless he had a change of heart, any
investigation that he performed, or interviews that he conducted, would
have been tainted by his beliefs.

[I would note that IMHO this is common in this genre, and without a solid
(and acceptable) peer review process we are all left to our own belief
structure and knowledge to judge the evidence presented.]

I am not as critical of Kent as others have been on this list, and while I
may disagree with his findings I understand that everyone has to reach
their own conclusions and they may be different than mine.  His "Scam"
article was well written and researched, but that doesn't mean that it was
an impartial examination of the evidence.  That he changed his stance on
Roswell and now accepts the "MOGUL" explanation is somewhat surprising,
given his decision to begin an international initiative to gather
signatures in search of the truth, but those are the conclusions he has
reached.

IMHO, Kent Jeffrey was not a secret "debunker" waiting for the proper
moment to throw cold water on Roswell.  If that were the case, I think he
would have been more subtle and the damage would have been more noticable.
From the discussions I've held with a number of people, Jeffrey's change of
heart has had the same impact as the new book by the Air Force, which is
relatively minor.  But there are many in the genre who compare his actions
to that of a traitor, and if he wasn't aware of the negative feelings this
would generate he was fooling himself.








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