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From: "Gary Mont" <gem@mulberry.com>
Date: Tue, 29 Jul 1997 14:29:08 -0400
Fwd Date: Wed, 30 Jul 1997 09:28:29 -0400
Subject: Re: Vallee Re-surfaces?

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> From: UFO UpDates - Toronto <updates@globalserve.net>
> To: updates@globalserve.net
> Subject: UFO UpDate: Vallee Re-surfaces?
> Date: Monday, July 28, 1997 11:53 AM

> From: SGBList1@aol.com
> Date: Mon, 28 Jul 1997 01:53:22 -0400 (EDT)
> To: updates@globalserve.net
> Subject: Upcoming Netshow on the Politics of UFOs

> Re:       Project Watchfire netshow on the "Politics of UFOs"
> When:     August 5, 9 p.m. est (new show every Tuesday evening)
> Where:    Project Watchfire website:   www.watchfire.msn.com/watchfire
> Guests:   Jacques Vallee, researcher and authorand Stephen Bassett,
>           consultant

>As prelude to my appearance on this show I am seeking input from BB and ML
>participants on concepts making up the politics of UFOs.

>Any comments are welcome.  If you prefer, feel free to respond privately.

> Some suggestions:

> What does the concept "Politics of UFOs" mean to you"

It means that Ufology is 100% a public science;
that politically, any Academic commits
occupational suicide should they publically
express concern over any aspect of Ufology.

> Is there a place for a political activist wing in the UFO movement?

Sure, but it will fall into the same routine as
every other political activist movement;
revolving stasis. Eventually, it'll become
another institution that deems its own survival
as far more important than a solution to the
questions it originally posed.

> Is it really a movement?

Actually, in the public, yes. Since science was
removed from public access after the bomb was
dropped - to protect the public from the dangers
inherent in new scientific knowledge - all
phenomena which result in public experiences
outside of the limited public-physics of reality,
must be investigated and analysed by the public.
In a way, the 'movement' is towards making
science a public institution once again.

> Are any of these issues politically resolvable in our lifetime?

Nope. Politically speaking, admitting to
misinformation is suicide. There is no more
possibility of Government allowing its deceptions
to be made public in the UFO field than there is
the possibility of Government admitting it has
lied about Hemp. Even Congressional hearings will
be forced to take into account the reputations
and position of those involved in the cover up,
and thus out of necessity of protecting the Top,
will ignore much evidence and try and soften the
impact on Very Important People.

> What is your opinion of CSETI's efforts politically?  Statgare International?

Its hilarious in a way, but at the same time, is
the very best effort we are currently capable of.
While I doubt very much that it will solve
anything, save showing the Intel Community
another area they must limit and infiltrate, I
see it as the best way to get Public Interest
fomented. Not the Congressional Hearings, which I
doubt will ever occur, but the public
notification that Ufologists are attempting to
force Congressional hearings, may just be the
proverbial straw needed to truly turn Ufology
into a Public Science.

> How dangerous do you perceive strong activism in these areas at this time?

How dangerous is induced cancer? >:>

> What is your opinion of the various petition efforts?

Oh definitely keep plucking at them, but do
please give more consideration to making this
attempt publically known.

> How effective were the FOIA efforts?

Which ones? So far, although it has been
publically proven that the US military DID NOT
STOP STUDYING UFOs after Bluebook through FOIA
dox, it has changed nothing publically, because
the general public is still 99% in the dark about
the truth still. And methinks the Boys of Control
will soon enough realize that FOIA is an
excellent means of distributing misinformation.

> Is our society <<politically>> capable of dealing with a full paradigm shift
> coming out fo the alien hypothesis?

It has no choice. A society that ignores change,
dies. This whole idea of secrecy to protect the
people from what might frighten them, is pure
absurdity. What you don't know can kill you!

> Any other ideas and suggestions.?

I sincerely wish I did. What your attempting is
by far the most 'promising' approach I think, but
I feel its success is very limited, due entirely
to the fact that "The Truth Must Not Be Released"
is the general attitude of our Authorities today.

> As a consultant and lobbyist working with extraterrestrial phenomena
> researchers, I am of the view that the key initial issues will be resolved
> politically in Washington, DC before they are resolved scientifically.  Do
> you agree?

Personally, I no longer believe Washington, or
any other Political body, is capable of resolving
anything.
Methinks they're far too busy preparing against
what they refuse to admit exists. And that means
accepting whatever orders pays the best.

G.