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From: EdKomarek@aol.com Date: Mon, 2 Jun 1997 17:35:30 -0400 (EDT) Fwd Date: Tue, 03 Jun 1997 01:01:01 -0400 Subject: Re: MUFON, Dennis Stacy and the B & B Affair >Date: Sun, 1 Jun 1997 23:16:33 -0500 (CDT) >To: EdKomarek@aol.com >From: Dennis Stacy <dstacy@texas.net> >Subject: Ed Komarek and the B&B Affair >Cc: updates@globalserve.net >Dear Ed: >So what I thought was supposed to be a relatively recent >incident now turns >out to have happened five years ago. Way to keep score! Well someone had to start a real investigation and get to the bottom of the matter. If you would have emailed the writer of the post you could have done exactly what I did, got the name and number of the primary witness and got the facts straight. But you did not, you just tried to pin the story on me claiming I invented it. So you forced me to investigate further to clear up the matter which I did by doing a interview with the witness. >And instead of MUFON thugs bursting in with flash cameras >popping, it now >appears that two people turned up on someone's doorstep (if >anything >happened at all), one of whom *may* have been associated >with MUFON, and >were apparently disappointed, and perhaps rude, that the >announced >conference wasn't being held. >This is a far cry from the way this matter was first >presented. >Anyway, an investigation is still under way. You'll criticize >us for this, >no matter what the outcome, but to us it's all wasted time >and >energy--something we have to do to restore our good name >because you posted >the original complaint far & wide and pretended as if it meant >something. >Thanks! Well finally you seem to have recognized that it was not my complaint at all. As far as spreading it far and wide I think you did that by the poor way you reacted to this whole affair. Nothing like a good feud to get everybodies attention. >To the best of Walt Andrus's knowledge, MUFON did not even >have a state >section director in Waco five years ago. But we'll continue to >look into the >matter and let everyone know what, if anything, we find. As >stated before, >if we find any evidence whatsoever that anyone even remotely >associated with >MUFON was involved in this incident, we will immediately >issue a public >apology to that effect. I should hope so. I just called Walt and gave him the ladies name and number, confidentially, so he could talk to her and confirm my interview with her. Walt knows this person and agrees with me that she is a good person. >However, even if the incident should have happened exactly as >described in >the most recent version you've posted, it should be obvious to >everyone >(except perhaps yourself) that such actions hardly constitute >MUFON >policy--otherwise cyberspace would be buzzing with similar >complaints, >especially since five years have now come and gone. Lets be clear here that I have only posted one version under my name and that was the telephone interview with the person directly and in detail. BB Ryders versions were his alone! >I suspect your source--this someone who no one locally has >ever heard of, >yet who somehow managed nonetheless to attract all these >important officials >to her B&B--is suffering from self-imposed illusions of both >grandeur and >paranoia. I think this speculation will be proved false soon enough after Walt talks to the lady. >We do predict, though, that she won't be able to find the >business card of >the individual involved (and why anyone hellbent on insulting >and/or >terrorizing someone would leave their business card behind >still escapes >me); we also predict that she (he?) won't even be able to >remember the >*name* of the individual supposedly involved, either--so that >you or anyone >else will be able to contact them for their side of the story. I have no idea what the motivations of such a person might be and why they would leave a card. >And aren't both sides of the story what we're really after? Or >would you >prefer not to hear ours? >Dennis Dennis, the problem here is that at least I took the time to email BB Ryder and get the name and number of the person involved. I am even cooperating in the investigation by giving the name and number in confidence to Walt. What have you done other than confuse the whole affair and slam me for a story put out by BB Ryder. I haven't seen you hardly even mention this person. My personal interview and post I will stand by as stated. If their are any errors they would be small. The fact is you made this mountain out of a molehill by going after me. As I said before I would have been glad to have published MUFONs response in the Bulletin and that would have been end of story. But by attacking me so vigorously and falsely attributing BB's posts to me in order to attack me is what stirred up this ruckus. Then on top of this to say I that make up the story that was just too much. I would suggest in the future that you reply to posts like BB Ryders in this manner: We are not aware of such and such event but we are opening a internal investigation to see if it has validity. We will forward a report to you from MUFON as soon as we have completed this investigation that you may then publish. Thank you for bringing this matter to our attention. ----- If You and MUFON would have simply done this, MUFONs reputation would have been enhanced not harmed. The best, Ed Komarek (ORTK) ------------------------------------------------------- To subscribe to the ORTK BULLETIN by Ed Komarek send mail to: listserve@awaiter.com with the following text in the body of the message: subscribe ortk-bulletins Or in more detail for those having trouble subscribing. To subscribe to the ORTK Bulletin by Ed Komarek send: subscribe ortk-bulletins in the spot for messages called the message body. Put this where you would other wise put your message that you would write to another person. In the place where you would put the individual's address to which you were mailing put: listserve@awaiter.com If you subscribed correctly and did not leave out a letter or symbol anywhere you will get back a message saying you are subscribed. 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