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From: Jean van Gemert <jeanvg@dds.nl>
Date: Tue, 10 Jun 1997 09:38:14 +0200 (MET DST)
Fwd Date: Tue, 10 Jun 1997 07:30:39 -0400
Subject: Re: Maccabee & Gulf Breeze
>At 10:12 8-6-97 -0400, you wrote:
>Date: Sun, 08 Jun 1997 05:38:27 -0700
>From: John <flagg@pacbell.net> [John Townsend]
>To: UFO UpDates - Toronto <updates@globalserve.net>
>Subject: Re: UFO UpDate: Re: Maccabee & Gulf Breeze
>> By the way if he hoaxed the film, show us how to do it, so they look so
>> excellent. Many experts not just Bruce have tried to figure out how to do
>> it. I've got a publisher that is looking for equivilant photos.
>Some hoaxes and tricks have been proven/admitted and people have never
>been able to duplicate them. People can do amazing things and will more
>often than not surprise you.
You've missed the point by a mile. First of all, your kind of rationale
can be used to dismiss about anything without needing any evidence. The
claim, after all, is that the photos necessarily MUST be hoaxed, but we
just haven't discovered how they did it yet. You want to have your cake
and eat it as well! Arguing that photos, which have passed all conceiv-
able tests, must therefore be very ingenious hoaxes is BAD science, and
betrays tremendous bias!
The primary problem with your hoax scenario, is the apparent difficulty
of pulling off such an obviously sophisticated hoax. Maccabee says that
some photos could only have been created artificially had Ed used full-
scale saucer models. Just the crane, the 'model' itself, and a lighting
system on a public road would not just be expensive and bulky, but it's
inconceivable for no one to have noticed Ed setting it up! That's just
one point. The other is that Ed's not alone in seeing these things, he
is backed up by _lots_ of independent witnesses and photos.
(Finally, what kind of "hoaxes" and "tricks" were you referring to spe-
cifically which somehow could never be "duplicated"? I think we'd all
appreciate some specifics.)
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