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From: EdKomarek@aol.com
Date: Wed, 18 Jun 1997 12:36:19 -0400 (EDT)
Fwd Date: Wed, 18 Jun 1997 12:43:58 -0400
Subject: Re: 'Debunker' Kent Jeffery: How Do We Stop Him!

>Date: Tue, 17 Jun 1997 00:16:28 -0400
>To: UFO UpDates - Toronto <updates@globalserve.net>
>From: Don Allen <dona@totcon.com>
>Subject: Re: UFO UpDate: 'Debunker' Kent Jeffery:  How Do We >Stop Him!

>Ed, you have now confirmed to me personally that you are >completely out of
>your mind. Getting a "court order" to "stop Jeffery" (sic) is >not only
irrational,
>it exposes your wacky I_UFO Boylan-ish mentality.

I am leaving to go work on a piece of land I have in the NC mountains and no
computer will be available.   This will take two to three weeks.  I will not
be able to keep up the dialogue on the Kent Jeffrey affair.  I am sorry I
don't have the time to address all the posts referring to what I perceive as
a classic case of infiltration, subversion and double cross.

Unfortunately so many members of the UFO community have  little knowledge of
political realities especially in the area of UFO/ETs.  I have followed the
activities of the debunkers for some 30 years now and its always the same old
story.  Thank goodness there are a few seasoned UFO veterans like  Bob Shell
who know the score.  If you have studied debunkers like CISCOP's Phil Klass
through this period you will have learned every trick in the book.   The
problem then becomes how to counter these tricks.

It should be obvious that a fifty year old coverup must be maintained and
nourished.   In order for a coverup of this magnitude  to succeed requires
that UFO/ET truths be kept from the mainstream press and public awareness.
  That means it does not matter if the truth in known by a relative few
individuals in the UFO community as long as their conduit to the public, the
mainstream press is confused and subverted.

CSICOP the debunking organization does not waste  time on research but
focuses on inserting their propaganda into the mainstream press.  The
debunkers know full well that this issue is about politics and psychological
warfare.  Small wonder that Col. Byron the head of the CIA's psychological
warfare board was on the board of NICAP back in the fifties.  I would not be
surprised if he did not have a hand developing the policy of denial and
ridicule so effective in maintaining the UFO coverup.

I thought I made it clear that the court order would be to protect the
signers of the petition that trusted Jeffrey to be their advocate and agent.
 It should be obvious to everyone that  Kent Jeffrey was acting in the
capacity of agent and has a obligation to drop out of the petition process
when he can no longer function well in that capacity.  These people trusted
him to be their advocate and not to undermine the process regardless of his
personal beliefs.  What he believes or professes to believe now to be true
will undermine the effectiveness of the drive.  For that reason he should
step down.  Its not his place to let his personal opinions interfere with his
obligation as agent to the signers.  This even if he is sincere which I doubt
very much.

The court order would be to stop his delivery of the petitions and to put
them into the hands of those that hold the same common beliefs as the
signers.  (I see nothing irrational about this.)  I doubt anyone will be able
to get that together in little over 2 weeks time.  Small wonder that Jeffrey
goes public right before the delivery of the petitions.  Timing is everything
in politics.  Have you heard when and where he will deliver the petitions and
hold a press briefing?  I suspect we won't know that till after the fact if
someone does not do some digging.  I don't see Jeffrey giving us any
information on that do you?

>From: lists@the-den.clara.net [Nick Humphries]
>To: UFO UpDates - Toronto <updates@globalserve.net>
>Subject: Re: UFO UpDate: 'Debunker' Kent Jeffery:  How Do We >Stop Him!
>Date: Tue, 17 Jun 1997 18:27:47 GMT

>But the best response came from ol' faithful Ed "I'm not >paranoid"
>Komarek. It starts:

Nick!  You can't even  quote me correctly.  Here is the proper quote folks
before this little bit of misinformation makes its rounds:  "Maybe not as
paranoid as you had been led to believe"
There is a big difference in these two statements

>Did you read Jeffrey's article, Ed? The Roswell Declaration is >a
>movement to try and get the govt to release UFO info, not just
>Roswell. As Jeffrey has decided that Roswell has a mundane
>explaination, but UFOs in general are ET, then it makes sense >for his
>petition to be delivered by himself.

Of course I read the article Nick.  You don't seem to be getting the point.
 Jeffrey is clearly not the right person for the job to deliver the
petitions.  Mark my words he will use his personal beliefs to undermine the
petition process in the mainstream press while maintaining a flimsy cover as
a continued advocate of the petition process.  Its politics Nick, the sooner
the UFO community and the general public wise up the better.  Its time  to
defend ourselves from psychological attacks such as these.  Otherwise the
coverup will may never end.

The best, Ed Komarek (ORTK)