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From: jvif@spacelab.net (John Velez)
Date: Wed, 18 Jun 1997 16:51:46 -0500
Fwd Date: Thu, 19 Jun 1997 02:17:08 -0400
Subject: Re: Re: 'Roswell-- Anatomy of A Myth' - Part 1/6
>From: rprokic@plinet.com [Roger Prokic]
>Date: Tue, 17 Jun 1997 20:20:12 -0600
>Subject: Rep: UFO UpDate: Re: 'Roswell-- Anatomy of A Myth' - Part 1/6
>To: <updates@globalserve.net>
>>Date: Mon, 16 Jun 1997 14:40:30 -0500
>>To: UFO UpDates - Toronto <updates@globalserve.net>
>>From: jvif@spacelab.net (John Velez)
>>Subject: Re: UFO UpDate: 'Roswell-- Anatomy of A Myth' - Part 1/6
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Hiya Roger, hi All,
I wrote,
>>Note: "Coma-wreck," are you listening?
You wrote,
>John, isn't this a bit juvenile of you?
I'm sure that it could easily be percieved that way and I don't
blame you for your attitude about it. As Ricky would say to Lucy,
"Eef jew doan unnerstan where I coming frong, I'll splain it."
Ed thinks it's O-K to say anything he wants about anybody without
having to substantiate it. He incessantly calls people names like,
government agent, traitor, debunker, sell out, etc.etc.etc.
(Serious stuff man!)
I didn't coin the phrase "Coma-Wreck" someone else did, and I
thought it was a good way for me to get Eds' attention! I used it
with him in order to (illustrate) my point. It was intended as an
educational "how does it feel to be on the recieving end of it"
remark. I was hoping that he would call me on it so that I could
discuss the issue with him and (maybe) get him to stop doing that
to others. Sometimes folks respond to a little 'heat!' Apparently,
it didn't work, Ed's leaving town instead! "Won't be near a computer
to respond for several weeks," says he. <G>
Sorry if it offended your sensibilities Roger, it was not intended
to convey the attitude that you percieved in it. I know it may be
hard for you to see, but in (my own unique way) I'm really trying
to help the guy! Ed has all of the best intentions,...just remember
that, "The road to Hell is paved with good intentions!" <G>
HIS ENERGY IS BEING SADLY WASTED AND MIS-DIRECTED. One of the things
that makes participation in the UpDates forum such a joy and a
bonafide learning experience, is the 'self correcting' nature of
the beast.
We come from many different places, life experiences and viewpoints
but (somehow) we all manage to communicate with one another and,...
knock some of the rough edges off of each other in the process.
I have made mistakes and, errors in judgement. These were invariably
pointed out to me by guys with almost polarized viewpoints to my own.
But guess what, in those cases they were right and I was wrong. I'm
better for having gone thru the experience. Vice-versa, (some of them)
are better for having been exposed to me and my life force. We keep
each other honest and in a rare case or two 'humble' as well. That's
ALL good healthy stuff.
Don't worry about defending Ed, he's a big boy and the lessons that
he's learning (we're all learning) will help to make him and us a
much more effective force (a unified force) in the future. He really
needs to hear the things that are being said to him, they will help
to make him a better neighbor, comrade and spokesman for the UFO
community. (Which is what Ed strives for, nothing wrong with that.)
We're knockin' the rough edges off of him, and each other, that's all.
I've found that participating on this list has sometimes been a "grow
or blow" situation, and I have learned so very much in such a short
time. Aside from all of the research related questions/dialogs, and
the ever present 'who said what about who' posts, this process of
rubbing up against each other, polishing each other, learning to to
communicate with, and respect each other, goes on underneath it all.
It is, to me, the (real) value and purpose of Errol's list! (It's
bloody Noble! <G>)
Let Ed take his lumps and pay his dues, if he has (half) of the
potential that he shows, people will learn to respect him. We'll
ALL be the better for it. People are naturally lazy. If we don't
occasionally challenge each other to bring out and contribute only
the very best that is in each one of us, we won't make any progress.
That, usually only happens by pointing out, working on, and eliminating
weaknesses.
We ALL have many lessons to learn and miles to go, we're simply not
in a position to evaluate how much or how little progress we're making.
What we are doing collectively is moving closer together, learning to
listen to one another, respect one another, and love one another. We
all stand on the shoulders of those that came before us. If we're lucky,
and work really hard, (maybe) we can advance the Piece another square or
two down the road from where we found it.
>From there, united in mind, purpose and will, we will someday be able
to (collectively) deal with ANY outside force that may present itself.
As one united people greeting another. (And that's only if 'they' aren't
here to turn us into their next meal!) <G>
Peace Roger.
Your fellow list/shipmate,
John Velez, lowly Seaman, 1st Class
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