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From: EdKomarek@aol.com
Date: Sat, 10 May 1997 21:53:55 -0400 (EDT)
Fwd Date: Sun, 11 May 1997 11:55:06 -0400
Subject: ORTK BULLETIN  #26

ORTK Bulletin  #26
By Ed Komarek
5/10/97
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INSIDE
1.  ED KOMAREK CO-FOUNDER OF ORTK RESURRECTS THE BULLETIN
2.  IMPORTANT:  TO STAY ON THIS LIST YOU MUST SUBSCRIBE ON
     THE AWAITER
3.  UFO/ET CONTAINMENT POLICY POST
4.  KAL KORFF RESPONDS TO POLICY POST
5.  ED RESPONDS TO KAL
6.  MUFON'S THOMAS DEULEY WONT POST PUBLICLY CONCERNS
     THAT UNDERMINE CREDIBILITY OF OTHERS.  PROMPTS OPEN
      LETTER FROM ED
7.  WHATS WITH MUFON?  (Editors note: Perhaps mufonhq can explain.)
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ORTK CO-FOUNDER ED KOMAREK RESURRECTS BULLETIN

Okay folks I am getting comfortable enough on my new computer to start
getting back in the saddle more formally.  I have figured out how to spell
check this Bulletin on my word processing program and move back and forth
from email in order to edit material.  Sorry Dennis Stacy you will have to
make up a better straw man to trash me with now! Ha

Thanks to Nick Shannon for sending me some old mailing lists.
Nick has a alternate ORTK site where he posts my material.
http://www.geocities.com/CapeCanaveral/1486/

For those of you that are just getting back in contact with me I have created
a small mailing list on AOL.  I am working to combine that with the old list
to get the word out to those that have been involved with me in the past.  So
some of you from the past may get duplicate posts as the mailing lists are
different.

 I won't mail Bulletins anymore out through my email at aol anymore(maybe one
more), thanks to Eric Stevens and his awaiter.  He has me set up with a blind
copy mailings list that has a good backup.  One of the problems we had in the
past is that we lost subscribers because of system crashes with poor backup.
 This should take care of that.

Mark Hines what is the scoop on the ORTK page at your site?
http://galaxy.tradewave.com/editors/mark-hines/ortk.html
Can we begin to update it?  What are your thoughts on this.  Everybody please
remember that if you email me with your thoughts, opinions and research to be
sure to let me know if any information is confidential so I don't publish it
in the Bulletin.  I want to get back to publishing more feedback.

I would also like to make it very clear that the opinions presented by myself
and others do not necessarily represent the opinions of Operation Right To
Know (ORTK).  Also anybody is free to copy and distribute this Bulletin to
help in its circulation.  Please help.
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Okay here is how you can subscribe and unsubscribe to this bulletin.  As
those of you that have been with me in the past know, I try not to make to
many mailings.  A year ago I was putting out a Bulletin a week and
occasionally other material.  I don't want to fill up peoples email so I will
try to keep my posts limited.
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Okay when you subscribe you should get back this post showing you subscribed
correctly:  Could be some what different as Eric irons things out.  Just
follow instructions to subscribe.  There are going to be some bugs to begin
with.

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DEBUNKER CONTAINMENT STRATEGY POST

From: EdKomarek@aol.com
Date: Wed, 7 May 1997 21:59:26 -0400 (EDT)
To: updates@globalserve.net
Subject: Debunker Containment Strategy?

       I would like to see a book written exploring the interactions and
relationships between such debunkers as Karl Pflock, Kal Korff, Col. Weaver,
Phil Klass, James Oberg, Carl Sagan, Donald Menzel etc.  I would also like to
see investigations of CSICOP and the tabloid press particularly the Weekly
World News.
       These individuals and organizations have had and are having much
influence on the mass media and mass consciousness.   All seem to be
following a common strategy to maintain the wall of denial and ridicule
around the UFO/ET subject that was officially pursued in the fifties by
agencies such as the Air Force and the CIA.
        It should be explored as to what the relationships are between these
individuals and their debunking organizations and the intelligence agencies
of the United States Government. Are these organizations and individuals
working as honest skeptics or are they acting informally as a private UFO/ET
containment arm of government?
        Its time that UFOlogists quit playing defense in this intelligence
game.  It seems quite clear to me that there is in progress a coordinated
effort to discredit Roswell and the witnesses involved.  In my mind
individuals such as Korff and Karl Pflock are simply repeating the tried and
true efforts of the debunkers before them such as Phil Klass, Donald Menzel
and Carl Sagan.  Through such efforts denial and ridicule of the reality of
UFO/ETs has been effectively maintained for 50 years.
        Why has there been so little investigation into the motives, agendas,
and backgrounds of the debunkers?  Is it not time to put the debunkers under
the same scrutiny that the UFO subject receives.   Of the vast number of UFO
books written I can't think of one on the debunkers.  Why?  I think that such
qualified investigators and writers such as Kevin Randle, Stanton Friedman
and Timothy Good should turn their attention toward exposing these debunking
organizations and individuals.   Lets take the offensive.  Let the debunkers
defend themselves for a change.
        I have seen some good material published in a limited and fragmented
matter by Ed Walters, George Hansen and some others but nothing
comprehensive.
        I am willing to bet that a well written and informative book will be
a real money maker.  I for one would surely buy several copies.  How about
you?
        The best, Ed Komarek