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From: Francisco Lopez <d005734c@dc.seflin.org> Date: Sat, 17 May 1997 23:47:20 -0400 (EDT) Fwd Date: Sun, 18 May 1997 01:26:53 -0400 Subject: Phone conversation with Jorge Martin (Puerto Rico) I talked yesterday by phone with Ufologist Jorge Martin, from Puerto Rico. Jorge publish the Spanish language magazine Evidencia OVNI. He had the courtesy of dedicating some time to this conversation, even though he is mourning his teen age son. Our condolences to him in this personally tragic moment. He explained me about a group, seemly para-military called UFO, which dress in black uniforms and conduct exercises, had been doing things that, according to Jorge, are discrediting UFOlogy in the Island, like fabricating incidents to have them debunked by the media. He believes that this group might have links to the military and/or other US government agencies operating in the Island. They were the ones behind the announcement of the allegued UFO crash in Puerto Rico. The fact that members from this list under oath and links to the military and intelligence aparatus had been privately warning about events like this (even pin pointing locations) for about a year now, lead me to believe that many of these incidents might be staged for discrediting or controlling the flow of credible information. Of course, this could be the almost random outcome of things flowing from the actions of compartmentalized agencies. Among the things JM told me during the conversation, are the continuing aparitions of the Chupacabras, now with some company [grey like creatures] and humans victimized and mutilated during incidents in which UFOs apear and take cows and other animals and dissect them throwing the remains in the fields. A curious thing is the aparition of black helicopters and apparently military personnel in black uniforms without markings following the creatures. In another incident JM commented, a UFO with a set of what seemed as turbines was seen with two other UFOs. He believes that this might be related to some sort of reverse engineering program. Finally, JM told me about a second set of meeting between the PR governor, Harvard Medical School graduate, Pedro Rosello and the US South command. The first set of conversations are related to the transfer of the South Command from Panama to Puerto Rico. During the second round of conversations, in a ship between Vieques [twenty miles east and west of the Virgin Islands] and the main Island, a huge UFO passed over the ship and entered the ocean. The information came alleguedly from close persons to Governor Rosello and reliable contacts of Jorge Martin. According to JM, Governor Rosello, thinks the UFOs are real, but will not make any comment and less announcement unless the US government do it first. Jorge Martin authorized me to post these comments from the phone conversation we had. As always, use critical sense. Francisco Lopez UFOR
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