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From: Bob Shell <bob@bobshell.com>
Date: Fri, 28 Nov 1997 09:38:16 -0500
Fwd Date: Fri, 28 Nov 1997 15:32:03 -0500
Subject: Re: Clark and ETH (and ELs)

>Date: Mon, 06 Oct 1997 05:21:17 -0700
>From: "John W. Ratcliff" <jratclif@inlink.com>
>To: UFO UpDates - Toronto <updates@globalserve.net>
>Subject: Re: UFO UpDate: Re: Clark and ETH (and ELs)

>I've been sort-of-kind-of-barely following this recent discourse
>on big bad old ET versus big bad old Casper the ghost.  This
>hoary rhetorical debate betwixt Clark, Randle, and some other
>members of this group who take "Zen philosophy as Quantum
>Mechanics" pamphlets a tad bit too literally.

>First we have to dispense with semantics.  The term ET brings up
>one image in our minds, ghosts and demons another.  Both bound by
>cultural mythos, one more modern, the other more ancient.  Both
>mean the same thing, ineffectual words used in a pathetic attempt
>to describe the ineffible.

>Last I checked, Jerry, Kevin, we was still calling them there
>things (U)FOs, U as in "unidentified."  I don't recall anybody
>ever actually identifying one of them flying gizmo in any sort of
>concrete way, with the exception of numerous exposed hoaxes,
>liars, and scam artists.  In all that time I still never did get
>me one of them there product brochures for one of those hardcore
>manufactured sports model UFOs.

>Meanwhile, I don't find the *TERMS* "angel", "alien", "ghost",
>"demon", "fairy", "goblin", "grey", "reptoid", "Elohim", "giants
>in those days", or any other concoction some contactee has coined
>in a desperate attempt to explain the inexplainable,
>particularily satisfactory.

>Admit the admissible.  These UFOs is weird unexplained stuff that
>serve to act as a prod in our minds, stirring the intellectual
>pot as it were, providing enough mythos to further fuel the fires
>for this millenialist landscape.

>Isn't it enough just to admit that somethine we don't know, can't
>explain, does in apparent fact, intrude on our shared view of
>reality?  And that this is, in itself, pretty remarkable and
>downright interesting?

>In many decades (some would say thousands of years), the critters
>flying these crazy contraptions have seemed content to operate at
>the fringes of our social structures and have never bothered to
>deal with us openly, directly, honestly, equally, fairly, or in
>any way as one self-respecting sentient species to another.

>Let's remember what side we are on afterall.

>Demons, aliens, whatever.

>They ain't our friends, let's start with that.

>John


John,

Glad to know you have been lurking.

We need some cool, sane heads like yours in this conversation.
I don't think anyone could have expressed the whole problem
better.

Bob