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From: Penrose Christopher <penrose@sfc.keio.ac.jp>
Date: Fri, 3 Oct 97 18:37:31 +0900
Fwd Date: Fri, 03 Oct 1997 09:59:57 -0400
Subject: Re: Christianity Online The Truth is Out There


I find it difficult to be tolerant of "evangelical", or better
described as TOTALITARIAN, Christian crusaders.  Such people who deny
or purposefully marginalize diversity of thought and culture, conduct
insensitive brainwashing and cultural eradication I find quite morally
reprehensible and considerably evil.  The historical record of
Christian conduct toward other civilizations is appallingly vile.  I
will try to be tolerant however, particularly as there are a handful
of Christians who actually practice conscientious tolerance
themselves.

Christians, like everyone else but no more so, deserve a voice on this
list.  However, I think that the purpose of this list is not
specifically intended to be a forum to discuss the rationality of the
belief in Christianity.  To discuss the existence of God or Satan,
whether GOD = SATAN etc., these discussions are perhaps better
discussed in more appropriate forums.  However, we can acknowledge the
possibility that "demonic" possession is a reality.  Particularly if a
more concrete definition of what "demonic possession" implies is
presented by Christian proselytizers.

Let me acknowledge demonic possession in the following way.  The act
of "demonizing", in English, is the simple act of labelling something
as "demonic", "evil" or highly undesireable.  Because a "demon" is
simply an extraordinarily vague "manifestation of evil", it is an
extraordinarily effective rhetorical tool for slandering just about
any noun, proper or otherwise.  Until someone can provide a more
concrete example of what a "demon" is, and provide some concrete
evidence beyond the pathetic "evidence of faith" that they exist, then
we can simply acknowledge that some Christians label evidence of alien
presence on Earth as a "demonic" presence out of either some need to
deny the reality of this alien presence, or out of a xenophobic fear
of it.

It is sad and strange that people who believe in the presence of UFOs
are treated with far greater intolerance and mockery than people who
believe in demons, as there is far greater evidence that unknown
objects are whizzing above our heads than the existence of a demon,
whatever a demon might be.

Christopher Penrose
penrose@sfc.keio.ac.jp