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From: John Velez <jvif@spacelab.net>
Date: Thu, 4 Sep 1997 17:37:38 -0500
Fwd Date: Thu, 04 Sep 1997 23:12:00 -0400
Subject: Possible x-rays of 'implant'
Hi Errol, hi All,
In the interest of keeping everyone updated (no pun intended) on the latest
and greatest on the 'abduction front' I am posting a series of e-mails that
are going back and forth beween a physician and myself regarding some
x-rays of an alleged 'alien implant' that have come into my possesion. I
always forward stuff like this to the very people that I can find. If the
doctor chooses to allow me to use his name I will post it.
I will keep everyone informed as the dialog progresses. I gotta say, I
really like this guy. He's a straight arrow, no BS fellow as you'll see
from his response to me. My kinda guy! <G>
In contribution to the cause,...
John Velez
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Hello Dr (Deleted),
My name is John Velez I have worked for last five years with alien
abduction researcher Budd Hopkins. I maintain a website where we have
posted x-rays, CAT scans, and photo's of the marks and scars on the bodies
of the abductees etc etc etc.
I met a couple while in New Mexico recently that said they were willing to
provide x-rays which purportedly show two "alleged" alien implants in the
husbands head and neck. ?!
I would like to forward them to you for evaluation. I would also want
them returned to me as soon as possible. If you or your collegues think
that persuing this matter further is justified we will try to work
something out in terms of asking the (anonymous) x-ray donor if he would
consent to further medical evaluation or a retrieval attempt.
E-mail me and let me know if you are interested. I have three x-rays on
hand. All remarkable.
John Velez
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Date: Thu, 4 Sep 1997 21:49:32 +0300
To: John Velez <jvif@spacelab.net>
From: (Deleted)
Subject: Re: Possible implant x-rays
Hello Mr. Velez,
And thank you for your message.
Of course I would be interested to see the X rays you mention in your message.
I must emphasize some points , however:
An x ray featuring a "foreign body" in someone's body does not constitute
evidence for an "implant" (with the implication attached to such an object).
It is what it is: a FB . (foreign body).
It must be considered within the whole context : a detailed history of the
patient should be taken by an experienced medical practitioner , in an
effort to determine the possible accidental origin of any FB.
A careful physical exam should be made (by a medical practitioner with
experience in treating such patients -like an orthopedic surgeon, a
general surgeon , plastic surgeon etc- according to the nature and
situation of the FB in the patient's body). Sometimes, and with the elapse
of a long period of time, FB's migrate in surprising ways to surprising
places.
Finally, a better understanding of the nature of a FB could be made by
extracting it from the patient's body and submitting it to the right kind
of examinations (a forensic Lab could be a good choice- usually they are
the best at this )
If a person chooses to perpetrate a hoax by utilizing a very common FB that
he could have gotten in a very common way (like running bare foot and
getting stuck with some small object in the foot, or a car accident, or a
blast injury or a war/weapon injury ) -he could cause quite a stir in the
all "too-willing-to-belive UFO comunity ".(by sticking to an abduction
/aliens/ UFO story)
Keeping this in mind , yes , I would be very happy to examine the x rays in
your posession. I will return them to you of course. Please mention your
return mail adress.
My mail adress is :
(Deleted) MD.
PO BOX (Deleted)
(Deleted)
(Deleted)
Maybe you can give me the URL of the web site you mention in your message
if you think that the material could be used for evaluation. I can give an
opinion.
Sincerely yours :
(Deleted) MD
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To: Deleted
From: John Velez <jvif@spacelab.net>
Subject: Re: Possible implant x-rays
My response to the doctor.
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Hello Dr (Deleted)
The x-rays will be posted to you tomorrow, (friday) from New York City.
Please acknowledge reciept. After you have had an opportunity to study
them you can return them to:
John Velez
Deleted,
Queens, New york
Telephone# deleted
The URL's that you requested are as follows,
http://www.spacelab.net/~jvif/XRAY.html
http://www.spacelab.net/~jvif/physev.html
http://www.spacelab.net/~jvif/physev2.html
Let me know what you think. I've been told by other physicians that the
"scoop marks" you will see are the result of a "punch biopsy" yet (none)
of the people in the photographs have ever had a 'punch biopsy!'
Other doctors have also told me that it is 'unusual' for these PB scars
to appear over perfectly healthy tissue. I have been given to understand
that PB's are primarily used as a means to diagnose 'disease' in the tissue
being sampled. (We) suspect the "reason" for the sampling is (genetic) in
nature.
I can't tell you how grateful I am for your time, thank you. I will be
sharing the information gathered with researchers who have an interest in
such things. You expertise and oppinion will hopefully help to shed a
little light into a sorely neglected and obscure area of inquiry.
Until I hear from you again,...
Peace.
John Velez
John Velez
jvif@spacelab.net
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