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Date: Fri, 5 Sep 1997 20:39:43 +0000
Fwd Date: Sun, 07 Sep 1997 15:39:30 -0400
Subject: {80} part 3 - United Kingdom UFO Network
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/ / // / / / / N E T W O R K part 3 Issue 80
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The United Kingdom UFO Network - a free electronic magazine with
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PS: Nearly 30 years on children at the science Museum in London
still look on in awe at the now primitive technology that put man on
the Moon. It is an achievement so firmly entrenched in the collective
consciousness of the world that to even question it amounts to
heresy. But thats exactly what author David Percy is doing. After
five years of research he's convinced that the Apollo 11 photographs,
the historical record of man's first lunar excursion were faked.
DP: There are two alternatives, either we went to the Moon and these
arn't the photographs or mankind didn't go to the Moon at all.
PS: Percy believes the pictures are littered with deliberately
placed clues planted by frustrated project technicians outraged at
the hoax.
DP: This demonstrates [picture shown on computer monitor] how we
feel that an astronaut has been filled in with light compare it with
how it might have looked if it hadn't had any additional fill in
light. Here we can see very clearly we have the Lem [moon lunar
module] on the right and the fact that the shadow goes East West in
this picture to the right of the frame, it would indicate to us that
the sun is over here to the left and we would quite reasonably expect
the shadows of the rock in the foreground to go East West. The fact
that we can triangulate shadows back to a point here, that we believe
that this positioning of the shadows is intentional.
PS: The film Capricorn One released in 1978 had Nasa astronauts
staging a landing on Mars on a film set. For those with doubts over
Nasa's credibility this was more closer to science fact than science
fiction.
[Bill Kasing - former Nasa contractor]
BK: We mounted this expedition, the expedition to the Moon almost 30
years ago and frankly you know I had a chance to look over the points
that this person was making. I didn't understand them. I don't
understand why we should spend the time to go off and do the research
to look up. To prove to people that we went to the Moon. The fact of
the matter is that we did go to the Moon.
PS: David Percy will continue his research seeking to prove the
unthinkable. That the greatest technological achievement in the
history of mankind simply never happened. Peter Sharp Sky News in
London.
[W 4]******
uk.ufo.nw says: This is a truly fascinating story that we first
became aware of after listening to Dan Sherman's interview on the
excellent American radio show 'SIGHTINGS ON THE RADIO WITH JEFF
RENSE', transmitted on August 6th this year. This was Dan's first
interview on national radio. An interview where he came over as
being extremely sincere and believable.
Dan's interview was meant to be one hour & thirty minutes long, half
of the three hour show. However the story that Dan came across with
was so fascinating that Jeff Rense asked his second guest if he
would come back at a later date. Dan's interview then extended to the
full three hours. Riveting stuff.
If you would like to hear Dan Sherman's interview on 'Sighting On
The Radio' or any other of these shows they are all archived at the
following world wide web addresses:
Home page: http://www.sightings.com/
Archive page: http://www.audionet.com/shows/endoftheline/archive.stm
Dan Sherman's interview:
http://www.audionet.com/shows/endoftheline/9708/end0806.ram
To listen to any of the shows you will need the program 'Real Audio'
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http://www.real.co.uk/
You can listen to the show/s in real time or as in our case connect
a tape recorder to your computer and record the show for later
listening at your leisure.
We strongly recommend listening to Dan's interview and would like to
hear your thoughts on this young man. Send your mail to the usual
address at:
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With: DAN SHERMAN as the subject heading.
Source: UFO UpDates Mailing List
Date: July 1997
Summary by: Glenn Campbell
campbell@ufomind.com (Glenn Campbell, Las Vegas)
An email interview with former government insider Dan Sherman is now
available at: http://www.ufomind.com/people/s/sherman/interview.shtml
SUMMARY OF INTERVIEW
From 1992 through 1994, Dan ("D.L") Sherman claims to have worked
with a secret military program to communicate with aliens. He was a
government specialist who received communications from alien beings
and typed them on a computer terminal. His job was analogous to a
communications officer on a ship receiving morse code but with more
depth and greater exchange between the parties. He never saw any
aliens, only communicated with them "intuitively".
Sherman says he was prepared for this role by the aliens before his
birth. Apparently during an abduction of his mother in 1963, his
genetic structure was slightly altered to allow him to receive alien
communications. He was unaware of this ability until, years later,
he was briefed about it while in the Air Force. He was assigned to a
program called "Project Preserve Destiny" (PPD). He was told that
the purpose of the program was to provide a network of communications
in the future when electromagnetic communications would not work.
He calls the ability "intuitive communications" (IC). His abilities
were "activated" during an 8-10 week course at NSA headquarters at
Fort Meade in early 1992. It was a sort of "night school" after his
daytime training in another secret but conventional field.
After training, Sherman's PPD duties were veiled by conventional top
secret duties at two Air Force bases. While at work he would receive
notification (apparently psychic), that a communication was about to
begin. He would then open a special blank window on the computer
terminal where he was working and would type the communication into
it. He would then close the window, and the information would be
sent to an unknown destination.
The content of the communications ("comms") were numbers mostly. It
was mainly things he did not understand, but some of the numbers he
recognized as the coordinates of locations on earth. He says he
received longer comms right after major space launches such as
Arianne and the Shuttle.
Sherman says: "During my last few months I started to receive what I
thought to be abduction data. This is when I started having
questions and I began to want out of the whole thing. This led to the
sequence of events resulting in my discharge. I think they were
testing my resolve as well because all of a sudden the comms were not
totally in code anymore. I thought that was quite odd. I'm not sure
what was going on but I didn't like the comms. I would be told
locations, resistance levels, residual pain levels, potentiality for
recall and each case that I reported would be given a code. I had no
idea what the codes were but I didn't like it... bottom line. I felt
like I was reporting the lab results of a bunch of mice experiments."
Sherman says he left the PPD program in Dec. 1994 and obtained
release from the military in April 1995 because of his discomfort
with what he was learning.
Sherman says he shows no evidence of psychic ability apart from
communication with these aliens. Since leaving the military, he has
received no further comms and has had no further contact with his
previous government contacts in the program. No government agents
have threatened him to keep quiet, but he fears that any improper
disclosures of his "conventional" top secret work could get him in
trouble. He has been working on a book, but that project has been
slowed by his own concern about "legal issues."
Sherman says that his communication with the aliens was two-way. He
calls them complex creatures. He says that although he cannot
describe them visually, "mentally, they are rigid, disciplined and
mostly unemotional." He did sense compassion from them, however.
"It was almost like this was their nature but they overrode this
characteristic because they perhaps felt it was a weakness."
An alien told him that they had been visiting earth "since the
beginning."
"They had made there presence known at some time in the past to our
ancestors and that the whole thing went haywire somehow, so they
have chosen to remain selective in their revelations since. They
impacted three historical cultures in the past. Which ones they
didn't say, but I have extrapolated since based on other information.
I also learned that there are other alien 'species' besides the ones
I commed with. The whole reason for PPD is to train a certain number
of humans to be able to communicate with the aliens so as to provide
a network of communications in the future when electromagnetic
communications will not work. I was never told what 'event' this
would be, but I have my own ideas based on other information I've
learned over the years."
If anyone would like to ask Mr. Sherman about his experiences, he
has agreed to answer questions by email. His replies will be saved
and added to a new web document, so they are available to everyone
and he does not have to answer the same questions repeatedly.
Send queries to Dan Sherman at: ppdman@juno.com
With a cc to: campbell@ufomind.com
For more on Sherman, see www.ufomind.com/people/s/sherman/
Summary by Glenn Campbell (a neutral party)
Reviewed and approved by D.L. Sherman 7/24/97
[W 5]******
Source: Fox TV USA
Title: UFOs The Best Evidence Ever Caught on Tape
Transmitted: Monday 28th July 1997
Fox TV - Pheonix Arizona - March 1997
Jonathan Frakes [JF] presenting.
[JF] Pheonix Arizona 1997. It began March 13th. Residents had
observed strange lights in the sky for the preceding three nights
which were captured on this short tape. Then at 9.45pm on the 13th
thousands of people witnessed this amazing display. Tom King [TK] a
local resident captured it on tape.
[TK] This isn't like the stuff I normally see. This is
extraordinary. You look at it. Thats not an aircraft. We were
perplexed the whole time trying to figure out what is this thing.
[JF] As the tape rolled five lights blinked on in sequence offering
an outline of a flying object in the ? near the mountains. Bill
Hamilton [BH] a resident was with King as he taped the lights.
[BH] This was a very significant mass sighting because at least one
of these objects was seen travelling down diagonally the entire state
of Arizona. Thousands of witnesses. Several video tapes. Hundreds of
phone calls were made to local television stations, the local police
stations.
[JF] That same evening insurance salesman Mike Chrispen [MC] was at
home with his wife when he recorded this astonishing video of the
same event from 40 miles away.
[MC] We saw a single point of light further to the east on the
mountains than I have ever seen before. All of a sudden another
sequence of lights started to form to the right of it. I happened to
be catching everything when the whole entire sequence came on.
[Mrs MC] They're very large. Larger than any lights in the city.
[MC] Take a look at the footage. I'm not telling you what they are.
If it was an alien space craft there's something out there that they
can't ?
[JF] Amazingly a third video is shot simultaneously showing the same
lights going out in order.
[JB] It's an amazing thing. This is a huge sighting that happened.
[JF] By inputing the video into a computer image processor Jim
Billatoer [JB] was able to determin what the Pheonix UFO looked
like.
[JB] Now we have 3D mountains and topology that we can swing around
and look at different angles. We feel very certain that the object
tip to tip is more than a mile long.
[JF] National newspapers soon carried front page stories of the
enormous V shaped object seen over Pheonix. But the local military
base did nothing to calm the fears of the 10,000 residents who were
startled by what they saw. A pheonix council woman Francis Barwood
[FB] has called for an investigation into the strange lights.
[FB] There is people that were active military that were afraid to
say publically what they saw. They had been told that it would be the
end of their career.
The Answers
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Landing a robotic vehicle on a comet
uk.ufo.nw says - In issue {79} of the e-zine we posed the following
question:
Question: Would it be possible using todays technology to land a
robotic vehicle on a passing comet? To record information as the
comet travels it's orbit into deep space. To be collected the next
time it passes Earth, whenever that might be.
Here are three of the replies we received. Many thanks to all who
answered.
--
From: clive.metson@virgin.net
There are two major problems with landing on a passing comet:
1. Meeting it.
2. Staying on it.
The first is probably the easiest obstacle to overcome. The orbital
mechanics would not allow 'conventional' approach due to lack of
gravity. The approach would have to be on a solar orbit thus
necessitating a large fuel payload for manuverability to make the
landing and collection approaches. This would differ from the Comet
Halley approach which was a flyby through the tail. On this mission
the orbits would have to be similar to enable matching during
landing and pickup.
The second problem of staying on the comet would be far greater. A
comet is small so the gravity between it and the lander would be
negligible. This means it would be impossible for the lander to just
sit on the body. It would need anchoring. The surface of the comet
is eroded during its solar approach so an anchor in the ice would be
likely to break free unless it was particularly deep. A spiders web
approach might prove a better solution.
There are other points, fuel leakage from the lander during its long
stay, lack of power, unless nuclear generated, would necessitate
passive instruments. The use of a nuclear plant would solve the
power situation but to what effect on the comet? The waste heat would
need to be completely radiated away into space to prevent the 'dirty
snowball' melting.
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From: David Skinner <david@drspc.demon.co.uk>
I dunno if it's possible but it would be a clever idea - hitch a ride
on a comet to the outer limits of the solar system and collect the
data when it returned. Of course, the longer the period of the comet
the better but the longer it would take to get the data back. It's
quite possible that by the time a long period comet returns we will
be able to send probes to those areas easily and cheaply anyway.
The huge amount of collected information over (maybe) hundreds of
years would need either a totally new data storage system or some
form of artificial intelligence - deciding what information is
valuable/interesting and discarding most of the rest. It would be
impractical to radio the data back from the surface of the comet
since it would be rapidly tumbling and, for most of the voyage, it
would be a VERY long way away from us. Also it would need a power
supply independent of the sun - probably nuclear.
Of course, we could simply launch a craft in a typical commentary
orbit and manage without the piggy-back ride altogether.
There is one major problem that I foresee - if we pick the wrong
comet then we might encounter the spaceship carrying the Heaven's
Gate cult to their next plane of existence. We wouldn't want to
disturb them, would we?
David Skinner
--
From: sacpbl@cardiff.ac.uk
A comet is essentially the same as any other object, it acts under
the influence of the same physical forces, therefor it would be
relatively simple to get a probe to the comet and then send a vehicle
to its surface. If the comet was on its way back out of the solar
system, thus having already passed the sun, then the amount of debris
would be at its minimum allowing the probe the maximum protection.
Once on the comet, the probe would need to secure itself firmly on
the surface, due to the extreme gravitational forces that the comet
may encounter when passing the outer planets.
Sending information back from the probe may be hampered by the dust
corona and also the possible rotations of the comet which would make
arial alignment a nightmare. The probable solution would be to have
an escape probe which will fire itself clear of the comet when it
comes back into the solar system but before the sun causes too much
of a destructive corona. This probe can then theoretically align
itself and transmit its valuable cargo back to earth before becoming
another piece of space junk.
In theory this is possible, but there are far too many things that
can go wrong, however, the Galileo probe was able to withstand a
tremendous pounding; so who knows?
Paul Little
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A FEARFUL SYMMETRY
A TRUE STORY OF ALIEN INTRUSION INTO HUMAN LIVES
By D. Lynne Bishop
A FEARFUL SYMMETRY Copyright 1995 by D. Lynne Bishop
All rights reserved. No part of this publication may be reproduced,
stored in a retrieval system or transmitted in any form or by any
means, electronic or mechanical including photocopying, recording or
otherwise without prior permission of the publisher, except by a
reviewer who may quote brief passages.
First Printing September 1995
Printed in the United States of America
BOOKFINDER PUBLISHING
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CHAPTER THREE
At the end of my first session, it was obvious to all of us that I
had not broken completely through the block that had been imposed on
my memory of that long ago event. The skillful questioning by the
hypnotherapist had uncovered an area that I was unable to talk about
during that session, and I was left intensely keyed up. I was
extremely angry with myself for being unable to face something in my
past, and puzzled by my inability to work through it during the
regression. In spite of my serious doubts and misgivings toward the
alien abduction theory, it was beginning to appear there was credence
to the entire phenomenon.
My mother's calmer acceptance of the unusual events was mystifying to
me. Her memories had contained nothing that particularly distressed
her, and she felt that no harm had been intended or caused by the
apparently alien entities. And yet, the brief glimpse I had seen
before my memory block had occurred gave me every indication that
something very distressing had happened to me. The constraint I felt
in not feeling free to discuss all the aspects with her was very
nearly overwhelming, yet I did not want to damage either of our
testimonies through contamination. As a result, our relationship
suffered, as I turned to other family members in my outpouring of
grief and anguish at events that I could little understand, much less
fully believe had even occurred, despite the correlations and
corroborating evidence. I told by husband I felt I had gained some
aliens and lost my family in the process. None of them seemed able to
understand or empathize with what I was feeling, and despite my
attempts, I was unable to make them understand.
My inner struggle to regain a semblance of comprehension, and my
urgent, almost obsessive need for answers was apparent to everyone.
Another session was set for May 22, at which time we would explore
the memories behind my secondary block. The hypnotherapist had
indicated that following my first session, other memories would
probably surface from time to time, but I was shocked by the many
visions that arose, like shattered fragments of a broken whole. As I
fought to incorporate these tantalizing shards, I found myself
becoming more insomniac. I had always been a light sleeper, able to
awaken easily and fully conscious at the drop of a pin, but now I
found myself sleeping only one or two hours at a stretch, never fully
relaxed. I never seemed to sleep during the hours of 1:00 A.M.
through 3:00 A.M., and was constantly alert to the slightest sound or
movement. While I wouldn't recommend it as a way to diet, I also
dropped ten pounds within two weeks, due to loss of appetite.
My husband's calm fortitude throughout the trying weeks was a pillar
on which I leaned heavily. In spite of the fact that I had turned our
world upside down, his steady, firm belief in me remained a constant
beacon--a ray of light in an otherwise dark tunnel. As I wrestled
with philosophical and personal quandaries, he continued to assist as
a sounding-board for the myriad questions that surfaced as I sought
my position in a world I hadn't believed existed. Surely, I thought,
I must have strained my credibility to the breaking point, when I
told him, very matter-of- factly, that the aliens I had seen during
my first session had what looked like suction pads on the ends of
their long fingers. Yet, he took my statement in stride--never
wavering in his steadfast support.
My entire family had watched the television movie "Intruders" on May
17 and 19, and many of the scenes had contained elements of a reality
in which I was only slowly beginning to believe. My husband and I
were watching together, sitting on the couch in our living room, and
I literally jumped off the couch at one point, exclaiming, "My God,
look! He's in a tube!" The scene was so fleeting that none of our
friends remembered having seen it. We had, fortunately, videotaped
the movie, and were able to point it out on replay.
Meanwhile, I awaited the 22nd with mixed emotions. In one respect, I
was less tense, since I was now familiar with the memory recovery
process--but on the other hand, I was extremely nervous about what
might surface, and what it might portend.
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