From: wlmss@peg.apc.org [Lawrie Williams]
Date: Wed, 10 Sep 1997 04:10:46 +1000
Fwd Date: Tue, 09 Sep 1997 16:48:27 -0400
Subject: Re: Zeta Notso Ridiculous
> Date: Mon, 8 Sep 1997 12:48:19 -0400
> From: BOB SHELL <76750.2717@compuserve.com>
> Subject: UFO UpDate: Zeta Notso Ridiculous
> To: UFO UpDates - Toronto <updates@globalserve.net>
>>From: wlmss@peg.apc.org [Lawrie Williams]
>>Date: Sat, 6 Sep 1997 21:02:33 +1000
>>To: ufo-l@mb.protree.com, updates@globalserve.net
>>Subject: Zeta Notso Ridiculous.
> Neanderthals resemble bigfoot???????? And just how would that be?
Stand a hot dog alongside a bigfoot and a neandertal and you
will see that, as the song goes:
"One of these things
Is not like the other...."
> Neanderthals were about the body bulk as modern man, but shorter.
> Bigfoot is invariably described as MUCH bigger and much taller.
There is a huge range of variation in size in Homo sap. If we assume
similar racial and geographical variations in neandertals and in
bigfoot then that is not a problem, especially given the time
and climatic changes that have occurred since.
> There is no evidence that Neanderthals were covered head to toe in
> long hair. Bigfoot always is.
There is no evidence that he was not, either. It seems more likely,
given the climate during that period. Also hairlessness is quite
rare amongst the primates. There is no reason to assume neandertal
was hairless just because humans are, or just because artists have
always depicted him that way.
> Neanderthals made and used tools. Bigfoot doesn't.
Maybe we just do not understand the kind of tools this hypothetical
neandertal cum bigfoot might now be using. Anyway, look at how our
own tool use has changed in several thousand years. How much might
Neandertal have changed in 30 000 years? Neandertal with his larger
brain could have gone a long way.
> This list could go on and on, but saying that Neanderthals
> resemble Bigfoot is not accurate.
In prehistory it seems as if both Homo sap and Homo neandertalis
existed mainly in relatively small pockets of population. Our
picture of how both of these groups evolved is far from complete.
And beyond any direct link, a variety of other hominid strains no
doubt existed close to the littoral zone, regions that were
inundated at about the time that neandertal supposedly dwindled in
number and homo sap began to thrive. We really only have a record of
the montane varieties of both species because of the fantastic
amount of water that seems to have been dumped on this planet (I
knnow this will be disputed) at the end of the last ice age. We
are now living on the hilltops of a drownded planet.
Interestingly neandertal seems to have petered out in Spain and that
is where modern man and those magnificent cave paintings put in
their first appearnace, some 20 000 years later.
For all we know in the period 40 000 - 20 000 B.P. they could have
developed an advanced civilization including interstellar travel and
advanced genetic engineering, just as homo sap is now doing. We must
be open to the possibility that advanced hominids with time travel
are now visiting us from the past.
Maybe with catastrophe looming they decided to move forward into the
future, say to about 2 000 AD. To do this they first got an inferior
species to set up the infrastructure for them. But here I speculate
wildly in my attempt to reconcile paleantology with observation.
> BTW, most recent DNA analysis on Neanderthals indicates that they
> were much more distantly related to us than used to be thought, and
> apparently not part of our ancestry, not even distantly. Humans
> and Neanderthals did not interbreed.
I think you will find there's a variety of informed opinion on that
issue as well.
Whether they were direct descendants of neandertal or something else
entirely, there are many references to "giants" with a higher civil-
ization than ours prior to about 400 bc. But that is another story.
Thanks for your thought-inspiring comments.
Kind regards,
Lawrie Williams___________
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