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From: John Velez <jvif@spacelab.net>
Date: Mon, 15 Sep 1997 16:15:40 -0500
Fwd Date: Mon, 15 Sep 1997 23:04:39 -0400
Subject: Re: UFO sighting with John Velez
>From: Greg Sandow <gsandow@prodigy.net>
>To: "UFO Updates (E-mail)" <updates@globalserve.net>
>Subject: UFO sighting with John Velez
>Date: Sun, 14 Sep 1997 13:56:48 -0400
Hi Errol, Greg, All,
Greg writes,
>I'm sure most of us have read John Velez, when he writes about his
>sightings over his home in Queens, NY.
>Since he's a friend of mine, I hear about the sightings first hand.
>On Saturday, 9/13, I visited him and - much to my surprise! - I saw
>something, too.
I've been trying all summer to get someone out to the house to simply sit
with me during one of my skywatches. I've been praying for a multiple
witness sighting so that I could get my sightings corroborated by another
set of eyes. And now,...Eureka!
>Why was I surprised? Three reasons.
>1. I've never had a UFO sighting, or even thought for half a second
>that I was having one. I don't expect to look in the sky and see
>something strange.
I have had more than a dozen sightings in the last two years, sometimes
involving large numbers of these objects (as many as 14.) Prior to that,
I had only had six sightings which were widely scattered over time (the
rest of my 48 year lifespan) Anyone, who spends enough time looking up and
educating themselves about the 'contents' of the sky will eventually see
one of these unique and very unusual objects. The vast majority of the
sightings I have had have been right from my own backyard!
>2. I've felt strange about John's sightings, even though he's a
>friend. I know he doesn't lie, but...how can he see so many UFOs? I
>haven't known what to think.
You're not alone Greg. I have repeatedly posted jpeg samples of single
frame captures from my videos that clearly show disc shaped craft in the
sky, countless photos, with enlargements, and enhancements and I have not
recieved a _single_ posted response to them. I had hoped that some folks
would give em a serious look see and report on their findings or express
their opinions as to what these things are.
I've seen too many of them (and sometimes pretty close up) to be confused
about them myself. They are not ours. They don't look like our aircraft,
(they move irratically and they glow in neon colors _in broad daylight!)
They simply don't fly like our (or _any_ known) aircraft, plus,... they
respond to thought! Our aircraft just aren't capable (yet) of responding
(immediately) to telepathic requests from an observer on the ground. (Which
is precisely what these 'things' have done for me on more than one
occasion.) I've been holding back some of these details because I thought
I'd already given everyone more than enough reason (in my posted UFO
reports) to have me isolated and medicated. <G>
>3. I messed up my schedule, and only got to John's around 5:45 PM.
>That left barely an hour of daylight. How likely was a guest
>appearance by a UFO?
Depends on if "they" knew what time you would ETA at my shack! <VBG>
> But here's what happened.
Greg, thank you for (so bravely) reporting publicly. You can't imagine how
much it means to me to have the sightings corroborated by another. There's
been so many of em recently that I was beginning to feel like the 'bugs'
were just screwing with my head.
>Let me jump ahead here, and point out something that helps explain why
>>John might see things while other people don't. He's VERY good at
>watching >the sky. And I don't just say that because he spotted this
>apparent UFO >long before I was able to. Later on, he'd point out birds
>and balloons >that I couldn't see. He'd keep pointing, and saying "Follow
>my finger!" >But only after the objects would fall in line with something
>obvious -
>"Look at the TV antenna," he'd say, "then move your eyes directly up"
>- could I find them.
That's twenty-six years of astronomy, combined with countless hours of
naked eye and optically assisted observation of day and night skies. I
_am_ a highly skilled sky observer. No BS.
>That's what happened with this unusual thing we saw. He kept
>pointing, and directing me, and finally I spotted it. "See the big
>cloud, and smaller one on the right? Look between them." I looked,
>and there it was - a small bright pinpoint. Imagine if the stars
>shone by day, and you'd spotted a bright one. That might give you an
>idea of what this looked like. The color was silvery white.
The 'Hockey Puck" that you saw is identical to the ones that have been
videotaped and photographed in Arizona, Mexico, Japan, and several Central
and South American countries as well. They are everywhere! It's why I'm
asking those that are incredulous of my reports to simply spend some time
looking up, no matter where they may be located. This is a global (not
local) phenomenon.
>So what was it? Beats me. I've never seen anything like it before.
>With the naked eye, it was like a star shining in daylight.
It was an U-nidentified F-lying O-bject! <VBG>
>Finally it disappeared. I wasn't watching when it did. I thought I'd
>pan the binocs around a bit, to get a sense of the background of
>whatever this was. As I moved my view away from the thing, I heard
>John say "It's gone." I moved the binocs around, trying to spot it
>again, and couldn't find it. I couldn't spot it by eye, either.
>According to John, it had simply vanished (which of course might also
>mean that it flew away so quickly that we couldn't see its path).
I agree. I've seen them beat cheeks out of the vicinity on more than one
occasion and from a dead standstill. It's an awesome (breathtaking)
manouver to witness. The one we were observing was too far away to see if
it had suddenly departed or simply disappeared. I reported to you what I
had observed, one second it was big, bright and there, and then it was gone
completely the next. I suspect that the explanation that you offered is
much more likely than that it simply vanished. I have seen them streak away
at 'warp speed!'
>I can only say that this thing, whatever it was, was not like
>anything I've ever seen before. It's the first thing I've ever seen
>in the sky that I couldn't readily identify.
I hope that this is only "one of many" UFO sightings that you and others
will have. "They" are becoming very brazen. Out in broad daylight, flying
with complete impunity in our skies. As if they didn't care anymore whether
anyone sees them or not.
>Sorry if I've gone into exhausting detail. Since I'm corroborating
>some very provocative sightings of John's, I thought it was better to
>say too much than too little.
Thank you, thank you, thank you. You're a courageous SOB for reporting.
Not very many would have 'put their bacon on the line' for me like you are
doing. You have much to lose and absolutely nothing to gain by it. You are
a real Mensch!
>John took photographs of whatever it was, and gave me the film. After
>I've developed it, I'll scan a shot, and upload it here.
I figured that by giving you the film to develop it would eliminate the
possibility of people accusing me of 'doctoring' the photos. All I did was
snap em. The rest is up to you. Send a copy of the original negatives of
the UFO to Bob Shell and ask _him_ to take a look at them. I have so much
of that stuff on file already that I don't mind having a few negatives
'floating around.'
I want these things seen and analyzed by as many people as possible. I
think it's important. In fact, I think it's urgent.
John Velez
John Velez
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