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From: xalium@netwrx.net (Tom King)
Date: Thu, 18 Sep 1997 21:54:50 EST
Fwd Date: Fri, 19 Sep 1997 02:44:45 -0400
Subject: Re: 'Rods'?


>>Date: Sun, 14 Sep 1997 10:24:14 -0400
>>From: BOB SHELL <76750.2717@compuserve.com>
>>Subject: UFO UpDate: Re: 'Rods'?
>>To: UFO UpDates - Toronto <updates@globalserve.net>

>>>To: UFO UpDates - Toronto <updates@globalserve.net>
>>>From: Mark Cashman <mcashman@ix.netcom.com>
>>>Subject: re: UFO UpDate: 'Rods'?
>>>Date: Sat, 13 Sep 1997 13:20:23 -0700

>>Mark,

>>I think you are right.  The stills and videos I've seen so
>>far of these "rods" lead me to believe that we should be
>>calling them bugs instead of rods.

>>Bob

To the List

Its time I enter this silly debate on Rods, UFOs, and Bugs.

It appears some cheap shots have been directly towards Jose, in order to
have something to talk about on this list. You can post all the math and
jargon you please, but it means nothing unless you have actually walked in
these shoes.

For all of you who claim to have some "expert" opinion on his videotapes,
you should post your facts on a URL like Jose, John Bro, Tim Edwards, and
myself have before you take cheap shots at the evidence.

Where are your .jpg stills to disprove this? Where are your videos and
photos to debunk all of this hard work? I find none of them online. I have
shot over 110 hours of video and SHVS tape of the "Solar technique" devised
by John Bro and Tim Edwards. I know more about this than any of you claiming
you can solve it in a weekend. I spent thousands of dollars a over 1 year
taping this technique. I still have no conclusive answers on what these
objects are.

Some are bugs. Some are spider webs, others are unidenitfied bugs never
discovered.

Still other objects are "clearly" flying into clouds and are large objects.
These objects couldn't have been bugs or insects.  They were real objects of
a large size to register on video at the size they were over 3 miles away. I
have very clear SVHS tape showing these objects moving thru clouds. It's
been on the net for over 1 year now. We post everything we have.

Tim Edwards shot his "clyinder" footage while it was near the Sun.

If you bothered to ever watch the sky you might see a "Rod" with the naked
eye. I have seen them. It appears as a rapid blur of a brown object moving
by very quickly and impossible to follow with a videocamera. Tapes of these
objects are accidental.

There are dozens of people who have repeated this experiment and came up
with the same results. This would make the "Technique" scientific. All of
the claims to dismiss it havn't been reported online as images to this date.
Nobody dismissing it has been able to post their results as the others did
willingly.

If you want to look at the "Solar UFOs" then here it is. All it takes is
just one of these images to represent a actual UFO to validate the claim of
shooting into sun.

If you want to look into these images then copy and paste these URLs into
your Web broswer.

http://personal.netwrx.net/xalium/chapterhouse/tompics1.htm

http://personal.netwrx.net/xalium/chapterhouse/april5/april596.htm

http://www.blackvault.com/johnbro.html

http://personal.netwrx.net/xalium/chapterhouse/edpage/edpage.htm

My Background: For the record. I have taped over 150 hours of videotape
footage. Not every single minute or every hour contains a UFO. Although I do
see them and tape the objects from time to time. I shot most of my videotape
of the "Technique".  I have a considerable amount of videotape to prove
there is more to this than just "bugs".  I have made it a point to
investigate and persue any UFO activity in the state of Arizona. No matter
what the case maybe. I have investigated the "John Bro Techinque", Hockey
Pucks, Triangular craft, and the Orange objects of the "Phoenix Sightings".
All of this information is posted immediately on the internet for all to see.

Before any of you start a fight with me. I challenge you to check out each
of the four sites and prove to the list all are bugs and insects.

Otherwise, skywatch, investigate and prove it to yourselves, before you post
on something you know little about.


Tom King, Skywatcher
Arizona Skywatch director
AZ Skywatch http://personal.netwrx.net/xalium/skywatch/skywatch.htm
OVNI Chapterhouse at http://personal.netwrx.net/xalium/ufovideo.htm