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From: UFO UpDates - Toronto <updates@globalserve.net>
Date: Mon, 22 Sep 1997 11:28:47 -0400
Fwd Date: Mon, 22 Sep 1997 11:28:47 -0400
Subject: Re: Why I haven't investigated John's sightings
Date: Mon, 22 Sep 1997 02:49:35 -0500
To: UFO UpDates - Toronto <updates@globalserve.net>
From: John Velez <jvif@spacelab.net>
Subject: Re: UFO UpDate: Re: Why I haven't investigated John's sightings
>From: "Clark Hathaway & Julianne Presson" <earthwrk@doitnow.com>
>To: "UFO UpDates - Toronto" <updates@globalserve.net>
>Subject: Re: UFO UpDate: Re: Why I haven't investigated John's sightings
>Date: Sat, 20 Sep 1997 20:11:49 -0700
>
>>Date: Fri, 19 Sep 1997 05:22:59 -0700
>>From: Ed Stewart <egs@netcom.com>
>>To: UFO UpDates - Toronto <updates@globalserve.net>
>>Subject: Re: UFO UpDate: Re: Why I haven't investigated John's sightings
>
>>> Date: Thu, 18 Sep 1997 13:25:54 -0500
>>> To: UFO UpDates - Toronto <updates@globalserve.net>
>>> From: John Velez <jvif@spacelab.net>
>>> Subject: Re: UFO UpDate: Re: Why I haven't investigated John's
>sightings
>
>>John Velez is picked-up uttering:
>
>>> Archives, dusty files, and dusty cases are the passtimes
>>> of dusty old men who can no longer get their flattened
>>> asses out of an armchair, and rightfully so.
>
>>HELP! I seem to be stuck and I can't get up!
>
>You are??????????????? Seems to me you were walking
>around fine when left Sacto?????????????????????????
>
>[SNIP]
>
>>> If you want to chase paper then fine, chase paper.
>>> But, if you want to see, photograph or study the real
>>> thing live, in broad daylight, over one of the most
>>> densely populated urban areas on the planet,...we got
>>> yer UFOs right heah!
Hi Ed, Julianne, All,
Ed Stewart responds to my last remark,
>>And so does every other urban area in the world where all it takes >>is
>>unresolved blotches and pinpoints on film for a honker to try to >>excite
>>a crowd and draw attention.
I am re-posting a single frame capture from the videotape that I got.
What I have here is a tad more than a "pinpoint" or mere "blotch."
Until you have conducted an analysis that proves that the image I have
submitted is a 'blotch' or a trick, or any other video artifact you're just
pissing in the wind and expressing a 'personal oppinion.' You should
preface your remarks that way. Your 'oppinion' which isn't based on any
personal analysis of the image that I submitted adds absolutely nothing of
value or anything 'substantial' or helpful for that matter.
You can't dismiss it with words Ed, you'll have to do a little better than
that or find something else to vent your vinegar on. I'm trying to get
informed responses that are _based on actual analysis_ of my pictures, when
I want your "oppinion" I'll ask you for it. And, don't hold yer breath
waitin! <G>
>I think we know some of them don't we???? ;-)
Do you have any analysis results to contribute Julianne or simply grabbing
an opportunity to feel superior?
>>So let's not waste time attempting to insert some discipine, >>academia
>>and rigorous standards of evidence to archives, dusty >>files, and old
>>cases.
No, we'll just spout or personal oppinions in such a way as to make them
sound like they actually have substance. I posted a picture of something
that flew overhead in the sky Ed. Analyse it and post your results or like
I said, go tell it to Skippy.
>>There is no need to elevate Ufology to a higher level. After all,
>>we have plenty of honkers out there to keep everybody entertained, >>and
>>I can't semm to be able to get up.
May not be the mass or the age of your ass,... but the 'lead content' or
maybe it's all those empty but very 'weighty' oppinions! <G>
I 'put up' and then 'I shut up' and waited for a response. You may consider
making an equal investment if you wish to contribute to the thread,
otherwise who needs more 'snide remarks' from the peanut gallery. Know what
I mean Ed? <G>
Look at the pictures Ed.
John Velez, Honk, Honk ;)
John Velez
jvif@spacelab.net
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