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From: Bruno Mancusi <Bruno.Mancusi@com.mcnet.ch>
Date: Sun, 05 Apr 1998 20:47:19 +0200
Fwd Date: Sun, 05 Apr 1998 15:57:35 -0400
Subject: Re: UFOs observed APOLLO Moon landing?

Hi list members, I'm new to this list,

>Date: Sat, 04 Apr 1998 09:28:55 +0200
>From: Edoardo Russo <edoardo.russo@torino.ALPcom.it>
>Subject: Re: UFO UpDate: UFOs observed APOLLO Moon landing?
>To: UFO UpDates - Toronto <updates@globalserve.net>
>Cc: Mancusi Bruno <Bruno.Mancusi@com.mcnet.ch>


> >From: koch@wad.berlin.fido.de (Joachim Koch)
> >Date: 03 Apr 98 00:10:00 +0000

<snip>

> >"Mr. Armin Risi presented a sensationel revealation to the
> >audience: in January 1997, the Tessin tv-station "TSI" (which is
> >the tv-station of the Italian speaking part of Switzerland)
> >broadcasted a high-class four part tv-documentation about UFOs.
> >The producer was the renowned journalist Guido Ferrari. After the
> >documentations a discussion took place with professors and ph.d's
> >of the relevant sciences. Among them was Dr. Dino Dini from
> >Italy, a longstanding NASA employee, who has been invited to
> >argufy from the sceptic point of view.

> Dino Dini can hardly be described as a UFO "sceptic".

<snip>

> Since at least 1992, Dino Dini has written and spoken publicly about
> UFOs, as a member of the "Scientific Committee" of the Italian
> fundamentalist UFO group, Centro Ufologico Nazionale (CUN)

> >Near the end of the discussion the TSI performed an uncut film of
> >the Moon landing. You could see, how astronaut Neil Armstrong
> >entered the Moon and you could hear what he said:

<snip>

> Our Swiss colleagues do own a tape recording of that
> TV program. I am sending copy of this message to Bruno Mancusi, who
> might be able to give more details, even if only to confirm or deny
> what Dino Dini actually said on TV.


Thank you Edoardo, I agree mostly with you. The transcript, I
have no time to verify, but the conversation with the
astronaut seems correct (based on my recollections). The answer
of Dino Dini can well be OK too, because he was a UFO buff before
being a so-called "former NASA employee" (which is not proven).

Some other remarks :

1. The Guido Ferrari’s show "UFO" was 4 episodes broadcast by
Televisione Svizzera di lingua Italiana (TSI, Italian-speaking
Swiss television):

 a) "UFO : top secret", 12 January 1997, 9:15 PM (sightings).
(This first episode was also broadcast by the German-speaking
Swiss television SF1 on 27 September 1997, 4:05 PM.)

b) "UFO: incontri raviccinati", 13 January 1997, 9:40 PM
(contactees and abductions).

c) "UFO: antichi astronauti", 12 January 1997, 10:45 PM (ancient
astronauts).

d) "UFO: cosmic Watergate", 14 January 1997, 8:30 PM (cover-up).

The lunar and space sightings were presented in the last one,
which was followed by a "debate" with Auguste Meessen, Corrado
Malanga, Dino Dini, Giorgio Buonvino and Roberto Pinotti. But
there was no skeptic researcher or scientist, so there was no
real debate.

2. The "high-class four part tv-documentation about UFOs" is
indeed interesting, but completely biased in the pro-ETH
direction.

For example, here are some names of interviewed people: Stanton
Friedman, Reg Presley, Robert Dean, Wendelle Stevens, Bruce
Maccabee, Carlos Diaz, Jaime Maussan, Zecharia Sitchin, Robert
Bauval, Colin Andrews, Guido Moosbrugger, Corrado Malanga,
Roberto Pinotti, Giorgio Dibitonto, Giorgio Bongiovanni.

I was interviewed myself by Ferrari in July 1995 but this didn't
appeard in the show, perhaps I was too serious...

3. It's usual in Italy to exaggerate peoples titles and
qualifications. For example all participants in the "debate" on
January 14, 1997, were presented as "professor at the University
of..." which is correct only (it seems) for Meessen (Belgium).

4. But the Dino Dini claims and qualifications are not important.
It would be far more interesting to hear from NASA if that damned
footage on the Moon (with the voices) is authentic or not !