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Re: Why Migrains Don't Explain UFOs

From: John Rimmer <j_rimmer@library.croydon.gov.uk>
Date: Thu, 06 Aug 1998 13:29:22 +0100
Fwd Date: Thu, 06 Aug 1998 09:29:51 -0400
Subject: Re: Why Migrains Don't Explain UFOs

> From: Gre St. Pierre <StrmNut@aol.com>
> Mon, 3 Aug 1998 02:39:12
> Subject: Re: Why Migraines Don't Explain UFOs

> Personally, I'd love to see you try and tell my dad that he didn't
> see precisely what he says he saw. That might even be worth
> videotaping.

Greg, you're father's sighting sound fascinating, and I'm
certainly not, from several thousand miles away (?) and four
years afterwards, try to offer any sort of explanation. But I'm
struck by the same things your dad found curious: the object did
not reflect the sunlight, and nobody else seemed to see it. This
sounds like something other than a large, solid constructed
object, but at this distance I have no idea what - should I?

Jerome Clark asks what is my evidence for saying that witnesses
start "adding little extras" like "I could see the windows",
etc. Well for one, standing around on cold hillside on
skywatches at Warminster, for instance where I have heard just
such remarks, and from reading and hearing dozens of people who
have see re-entering space debris or meteorites describing them
as cylindrical objects with lights along them.

Let's also be glad that Jerry Clark didn't go into police work.
No doubt he would be prepared to accept the testimony of
"individuals with high levels of civic responsibility" without
question, and no doubt the jails would be bursting with even
more miscarriages of justice than they are now. This of course
is why Britain and the USA are blessed with a jury system which
allows all reported and remembered versions of an event to be
heard and judged, and come to a verdict which is "beyond
reasonable doubt". I am just glad that most people in law
enforcement do accept that uncorroborated eyewitness testimony
is open to doubt and challenge.

May I just reprise a few questions I have asked which have gone
notably unanswerd from previous posts:

Why does Mark Cashman reject "accounts of communication with UFO
occupants, repeater sightings and any suggestion that the
witness has been 'chose' by the UFO source"?

Why is he unwilling to accept that there is a proportion of
unsolved hoaxes amongst UFO reports whilst he is happy to make
assumptions about unreported observations of unusual natural
phenomena?

What about Monnerie's identification of UFOs and IFOs?

How can investigators ensure that 're-enactments' are accurate
reporoductions of the conditions of the original event; and what
techniques do ufologists use in their interviews to ensure that
they are "capable of determining the witnesses perceptual
ability and the degree to which they are capable of
distinguishing natural phenomena."?

John Rimmer
Magonia Magazine



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