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From: UFO UpDates - Toronto <updates@globalserve.net>
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1998 11:40:32 -0500
Fwd Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1998 11:40:32 -0500
Subject: Re: Abduction Evidence -- Request For Help

Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1998 01:49:03 -0500
To: UFO UpDates - Toronto <updates@globalserve.net>
From: John Velez <jvif@spacelab.net>
Subject: Re: Abduction Evidence -- Request For Help

>To: UFO UpDates - Toronto <updates@globalserve.net>
>From: Serge Salvaille <sergesa@connectmmic.net>
>Subject: Re: Abduction Evidence -- Request For Help
>Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1998 16:44:35 -0500

>>Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1998 00:45:26 -0500
>>To: UFO UpDates - Toronto <updates@globalserve.net>
>>From: John Velez <jvif@spacelab.net>
>>Subject: Re: Abduction Evidence -- Request For Help

>>There's a cruel truth to that 'joke' Roger. Other than an
>>abductee who offered to ask his personal physicians if they'd be
>>interested, and your suggestion, we haven't heard from a soul.
>>Shame. I have other material (other x-rays) that I wanted looked
>>at as well as my own. The other set of x-rays has baffled a few
>>doctors and one radiologist that I have shown them to. If we
>>could get someone (physician) willing to step up to the plate
>>(other than another foot doctor) we might start to make a little
>>progress. I have always been willing to try to substantiate my
>>claims. I just haven't run into anyone (as of yet) who is
>>actually doing the work of investigating what material there is
>>already available.


>Hello John,

>A few questions:

>What was baffling about those x-rays?

See for yourself. I have attached a copy of one of the x-rays.
It is not to be reposted/copied/republished in any way, shape,
or form. The individual wishes to remain anonymous and the x-ray
is his private property and a part of his medical record. If
this gets reposted it'll be the last time I share anything of an
evidential nature in this forum.

The x-ray -clearly- shows a cylindrical object (embedded) -in-
the persons spinal column. One of the physicians I showed it to
was my personal family doctor. (Internist) He was clearly
shocked at what he saw and his first comment was, "I have never
seen anything like that. How did that get in there?"

When I told him that the person claims that it was placed there
by "aliens" during an abduction on board a UFO, he asked me if
he could keep them for a couple of weeks so that he could show
them to some collegues at the Hospital he is associated with.
Upon my follow up visit two weeks later he returned them to me
and informed me that everyone he showed them to were stumped. No
one had ever seen anything like it,- they could not explain how
it could have gotten in there without killing or paralysing him-
and none of them knew what the object was. They were all in
accord that the object clearly appeared to be
artificial/manufactured. I asked him if there is anything
similar (hardware) used by surgeons and he told me no. He knows
what all the screws and plates and devices they put into peoples
bodies looks like on an x-ray. They had never seen anything like
it.

I have shown them to two other physicians and one radiologist
that specialises in reading neurological x-rays and they all
said the same thing my doctor said; they'd never seen anything
like it. We have more. There is just no one -reputable/qualified
to take them to for further investigation and analysis. It's
frustrating as hell. I'd like to have the stuff verified one way
or the other just so I can stuff it under the noses of those who
insist that there is -no- physical evidence for abductions.

There is. There's just no one looking at it, reporting on the
findings, cataloging, or doing a detailed and comprehensive
analysis.

No one.

Anywhere in the world!

Amazing.

>I there a possibility for you to get a medical report on them
>(the x-rays).  I understand this is not necessarily some easy
>task: the medical profession is always wary about releasing any
>stuff to clients.

Not for publication. If a reputable/qualified researcher shows
an interest I'm sure the individual in question would be willing
to cooperate.

>As for consulting _many_ specialists.  I don't how this works in
>the US, but in Canada it is not very difficult to get second,
>third, even fourth opinions on a medical situation if you know
>what do.  As specialists must be referred to by generalists,
>there is no problem to get a paper from your doctor to see
>someone - as every one in the chain is getting paid anyway, and
>it doesn't cost you a dime, they usually don't care.

This is America dude! We don't have 'socialized medicine." It
costs me $50 bucks a pop to visit my doctor. If I'm sick and he
prescribes something it could easily add another $50 to $75
bucks onto the tab.

Specialists? They get $150 or more just to look at you! After
tests, an office visit to a "specialist" can cost you $300 or
better. If you're lucky enough to have insurance coverage it's
cheaper but those are the prices man. My last name is "Velez"
not 'Rockefeller!' <G>

Peace,

John Velez, Webmaster IF-AIC

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