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From: Robert A. M. Stephens <sti3818@montana.com>
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1998 23:38:16 +0000
Fwd Date: Fri, 18 Dec 1998 12:38:38 -0500
Subject: Re: NASA Shuttle Mysteries - Contractor Speaks Out

[Non-Subscriber Post]

UpDates,

I wish to submit the removal of my truculent email 'NASA
Contractor Speaks out.-response' whereby I speak AGAINST Peter
Gersten, Director, CAUS, in that above, on the same page, for
12-17-1998, Mr. Gersten has posted, completely on his own
volition, a very sound, honest, erudite, and kind email update
of my reports, compiled quite well into one coherent posting,
and other released data concerning NASA, UFOs and other topics I
have presented over the last 60 days, many for the first time.

His excellent posting is entitled: "NASA Shuttle Mysteries -
Contractor Speaks Out."

[A familiar 'Subject:' line that originated on UFO UpDates
 on Thu, 17 Dec 1998 10:53:05 -0500 and forwarded by me to
 you --ebk]

To this post by Mr. Gersten, I say, "Well done!".

I am not in this 'UFO culture' and it frankly leaves me not only
empty, but deeply angered and hurt at the slander, hate,
falsehoods, lies, allegory, alludings, and general overall
dementia regarding the real issues that are confronting our
nation, its people, and the world, concerning the visitors,
intruders, and the inexplicable events happening to us.

I can say categorically, that in the plethora of lies on nearly
1200 UFO 'sites', there is not one shred of organized truth. The
truth will never be divulged under this protocol. Never. If any
of you were attacked as you have attacked NASA or some of the
other agencies, would you tell the attacker anything. The answer
is no.

A case in point, on one site, 'The Enterprise Mission', I
believe, presents to the public by a Dr. Richard Hoagland, and
hosted by a Mike Bara, states over and over that NASA plots and
executes all unmanned and manned space flights by masonic
symbols and astrological signs, among many other lies.

This is a pathologic lie (intent to due harm with malice). NASA
plots all unmanned and manned space flights by the following:

1.  Algebraic formulas within the field of orbital mechanics.
2.  Locator trajectories based on target intent.

Nothing more and nothing less. Space flight is not subject to
mumbo jumbo.

On still other matters hosted and posted on these and other
sites like, ORBIT, Raven, ELFRAD, Flash RADAR, these liars have
excerpted my postings and emails with phone numbers and contacts
therein, and then gone on to say that 20 year old proven
historical events of radar rings in and around select locations
are somehow some new grand deal to kill us all by NASA and DoD.
These are lies.

Then, they go on to state that I am some 'NASA source' and NASA
is somehow 'scared' of something. NASA nor I are afraid of
anything. I am not a 'source'. I am Robert A.M. Stephens and my
phone number and email address is on the bottom of this mail.
This is as clear and honest as it can be. It is not subject to
further 'assessement'.

This is not 'flaming' anyone, as this online culture refers to
slander. This is a statement of categorical fact that these
sites so mentioned above are trafficking in pathological lies.
It is not subject to further debate. If it continues on the
sites thus mentioned, I myself will sue them all with the FCC
and AOL and the other big carriers of the packet strings on the
pipe (internet). I am a free contractor and if I deem I or NASA
is being slandered I can sue if I so wish. Defamation is serious
business under these circumstances.

They took my posting regarding the submarine contact/ELF station
in Black Duck Minnesota and then posted: "there is no such
place, but in Pissboro Wisconsin there are 400 small creatures
with ray pipes impregnating women by the millions......bla, bla,
bla", or some such pap.

These are lies. Lies, not slander. Lies.  Black Duck, Minnesota
is a small town in the United States of America. True ELF is a
sonar array for communicating with submarines. Period!

On the same 'Enterprise Mission' site and others, including
links on the Art Bell site, there is the ongoing statement that
somehow there was a landing or something in this vein that
occurred on Turret Mountain , Arizona, on the night of December
7th, 1998. This is a lie. Also, some pap about 'critics firing
at big guns over Texas' or some such delusion. No, I am stating
fact: the radar rings are either fakery, or the normal anomaly
of rings appearing around any and all large electrical arrays
throughout the industrialized world where various levels of
'core shielding' is either in effect or not. Thus, off and on,
rings in the scope field results.

NORAD/Fence database shows no intruder for that date or from
12-5-1998 to the current time (12-17-1998) in near or far Earth
space. This is radii from 100,000 miles in all directions from
Earth's surface. The Silver Veil Reconnaissance satellite, which
is part of the 15 year old completed, whole-Earth recon and
surveillance system detects any intruder into Earth's biome down
to the size of a volleyball. It also detects all spectrums of
wavelength data out to even femtophoton signals, themselves not
yet clearly defined by science yet. Thus, even if an intruder
'phases' into non-mass conditions, Fence will still register the
intruder in fempto wave patterns. Nothing can broach this.

Nothing.

There was no landing or other involvement of such on Turret
Mountain, Arizona.

Further, it is claimed HAARP somehow did something to the
weather--especially so in and around central Arizona. This would
be most difficult since HAARP has been down for maintenance
since 11-2-1998. Too, it does not effect weather. It may effect
extremely localized isobars (high and low pressure) but then so
does a commercial aircraft when taking off or landing.

I mention these events not out of ridicule, but the fact they
are blatant, patent, lies. And these very pages state they want
to somehow 'get the truth out'. This, in itself, is a lie.

The truth will never be known or divulged under these
conditions. This is not a subject of censorship. It is not even
subject to debate. It is a matter of statement of truth, or
nothing at all.

In closing, I would like you to post some heading in a
pronounced heading and fashion that will draw readers to this
mail post. Please include it all and the praise that Peter
Gersten, Director of CAUS, has presented as a news post of very
good and truthful information for the date of 12-17-1998. Others
should take Mr. Gersten's lead and do likewise.

Should this result, throughout this 'industry', more data of
needed truths will undoubtedly come forth since WE are all in
this together. Forever.

I salute Mr. Gersten and CAUS. Others should take his lead.


I am,

-- Robert A.M. Stephens
Contractor, NASA
Shuttle Documentation Program
KSC-PA/PIB-codeMSF/shuttle
sti3818@montana.com
406-745-3818